Hi guys
Chill out first:) I was going to just ignore this thread but wanted tell you that we are very far from being able to make you taller without a cll surgery once you are done growing. Whether you want to believe or not, it is really true.
Stem cell therapy is only for gap filling in bone not for making you taller. Stem cell can't form a growth plate or generate a gap for you to grow taller. Growth plate implantation can be done only for treatment for kids who are or supposed to be growing but lost or damage growth plate. But this is not a trivial surgery and doesn't really make bone grow completely normal but more likely providing higher chance to grow normal. Note that patients are all children who still have a lot of potential for growing. Growth plate implanting for adult is another story. Technically and ethically it is much much harder for adult. I seriously doubt that any doctor or scientist would spend time and money on doing this type of research for adult.
Clamping or tapping/hammering your leg may (extremely unlikely) make you grow. But it will require so much time for only negligible gaining (very likely less than 1 cm if it every happens.). If one is so desperate to get taller, he/she may even hammer too hard, causing a serious damage. At the end of day, it is your choice.
On the other hand, I did cll with stryder. Although I may not expect 100% recovery, it has been great to me. I believe that as long as you find a good doctor and extend your bone to a safe limit, whether or not it is external or internal, the chance for any serious complication is very very low.
Good luck,
Quote from: Ghostfish on October 27, 2020, 01:51:56 AMHi guys
Chill out first:) I was going to just ignore this thread but wanted tell you that we are very far from being able to make you taller without a cll surgery once you are done growing. Whether you want to believe or not, it is really true.
Stem cell therapy is only for gap filling in bone not for making you taller. Stem cell can't form a growth plate or generate a gap for you to grow taller. Growth plate implantation can be done only for treatment for kids who are or supposed to be growing but lost or damage growth plate. But this is not a trivial surgery and doesn't really make bone grow completely normal but more likely providing higher chance to grow normal. Note that patients are all children who still have a lot of potential for growing. Growth plate implanting for adult is another story. Technically and ethically it is much much harder for adult. I seriously doubt that any doctor or scientist would spend time and money on doing this type of research for adult.
Clamping or tapping/hammering your leg may (extremely unlikely) make you grow. But it will require so much time for only negligible gaining (very likely less than 1 cm if it every happens.). If one is so desperate to get taller, he/she may even hammer too hard, causing a serious damage. At the end of day, it is your choice.
On the other hand, I did cll with stryder. Although I may not expect 100% recovery, it has been great to me. I believe that as long as you find a good doctor and extend your bone to a safe limit, whether or not it is external or internal, the chance for any serious complication is very very low.
Good luck,
Well said.
But still some people want to believe in sheep cells, hammers and all these bs and living miserably waiting for miracles while others do LL in respectable doctors, get rid of their short height safely enough and live happily.
Everything we are has to do with the choices we made.
Quote from: levsfri on October 26, 2020, 07:45:48 PMby reading some of the posts here it seems like some people think lsjl is having to sledgehammer the bones or something like that lol.
You lose nothing with trying it as far as what I can tell, it should not hurt at all and if it does you are probably hitting rather than tapping. I mean come on guys, tapping your bones lightly with a hammer is not more invasive than literally getting a surgery to split your bones in half.
Quote from: levsfri on October 26, 2020, 11:21:59 PMThose that do actually try lsjl have nothing to lose except for a few minutes a day, they could gain a few cm or they could maybe not even gain a picometer, costs nothing to try. As far as cosmetic surgeries go LL has to take the cake, this isn't a nosejob, there is no evidence what so ever that anyone comes back from this surgery 100% whether you ask paley or some crazy doc in india.
Welcome to this forum, where light tapping is considered more dangerous than permanently damaging LL Surgery.
Quote from: ZUCC420 on October 26, 2020, 02:18:28 PMplease don't consider everyone to be as "smart" as you, cause like you said we are "sheep" and we sheeps do not believe anything an illiterate gym rat broscientist such as yourself say whether it's about women or LL
you might have a few lackeys here and there that'll come to your defense but in all honestly no one gives a ŝhit about you, whether it's people here or women elsewhere
Haha, spot on!
Quote from: Body Builder on October 26, 2020, 10:58:47 AMSo lsjbl bl is based on science? Ok, thats what I wanted to hear, that you don't know if it works or not.
Any mentally capable person would have known that hammering your bone won't make you taller, low iq naives like you however are not sure and they are willing to hammer themselves to see if it works or not.
It's almost as though you don't read the replies. Your inability to have a logical conversation makes it tough to reason with you.
Don't forget to not eat modern/processed food, because, you know, your "huge" frame might become smaller, BroScientist that can't understand sh*t. You're the definition of Dunning–Kruger effect (too stupid to understand that you're not smart; click the link to learn more about yourself).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Quote from: Body Builder on October 26, 2020, 10:58:47 AMNext step to drawn under the water with a huge rock for 1 hour to see if they'll breathe like a fish or not.
As for your analogies, they're so bizzare, that I cringe everytime I read them.
Height is not your real problem, you need to fix your low brainpower and ignorant behaviour issues, but for those, I guarantee you,
"Nothing will happen for the next many years".
Quote from: Body Builder on October 27, 2020, 09:32:42 AMWell said.
But still some people want to believe in sheep cells, hammers and all these bs and living miserably waiting for miracles while others do LL in respectable doctors, get rid of their short height safely enough and live happily.
Everything we are has to do with the choices we made.
people with no money and no prospectives want to believe in stupid stuff to have a hope and feel less sad, justifying their rejection for something they can’t afford with the excuse of a better alternative that will never arrive for them.
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The method is protoscience and dismissing it on the grounds that "hurr durr hammer beat sounds ridiculous dangerous" is as ludicrous as dismissing leg lengthening surgery on the basis of "muhh leg brrrreak" having no actual substance to back it. Be a little open minded, stop inflicting half baked opinions on things you don't even know about or how they work based on your one second gaze and throwing around timelines out of thin air when you have no fking clue on the developments are completely closed off to the possibility.
Yes, leg lengthening is currently the only verified, working and somewhat reliable way but other methods which have some theoretical validity to them if refined may lead to appreciable results.
Quote from: O_99 on October 27, 2020, 12:11:46 PMWelcome to this forum, where light tapping is considered more dangerous than permanently damaging LL Surgery.
Haha, spot on!
It's almost as though you don't read the replies. Your inability to have a logical conversation makes it tough to reason with you.
Don't forget to not eat modern/processed food, because, you know, your "huge" frame might become smaller, BroScientist that can't understand sh*t. You're the definition of Dunning–Kruger effect (too stupid to understand that you're not smart; click the link to learn more about yourself).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
As for your analogies, they're so bizzare, that I cringe everytime I read them.
Height is not your real problem, you need to fix your low brainpower and ignorant behaviour issues, but for those, I guarantee you,
"Nothing will happen for the next many years".
I have a university degree and after all my iq leven can't be judged from someone that (may) believe on hammering his bones to become taller while he is criticizing LL in an LL forum.
Tartar yes, low iq, income, lack of courage etc are the reasons believe on bs like lsbjl.
But mainly the first one. Even if you can't afford LL or don't want to do it, you must be really stupid to believe in hammers and all these, even to be sceptical about it and not 100% against.
Quote from: Scarface on October 27, 2020, 01:05:01 PM...
The method is protoscience and dismissing it on the grounds that "hurr durr hammer beat sounds ridiculous dangerous" is as ludicrous as dismissing leg lengthening surgery on the basis of "muhh leg brrrreak" having no actual substance to back it. Be a little open minded, stop inflicting half baked opinions on things you don't even know about or how they work based on your one second gaze and throwing around timelines out of thin air when you have no fking clue on the developments are completely closed off to the possibility.
Yes, leg lengthening is currently the only verified, working and somewhat reliable way but other methods which have some theoretical validity to them if refined may lead to appreciable results.
These methods needs scientific research, experiments and proofs to be considered even as theoretical alternatives to LL (because real alternative does not exist for now).
Hammering your bones like an idiot has nothing from the above, dangerous or not.
Quote from: Body Builder on October 27, 2020, 02:12:15 PMThese methods needs scientific research, experiments and proofs to be considered even as theoretical alternatives to LL (because real alternative does not exist for now).
Hammering your bones like an idiot has nothing from the above, dangerous or not.
Yeah that's true
Quote from: Ghostfish on October 27, 2020, 01:51:56 AMStem cell therapy is only for gap filling in bone not for making you taller. Stem cell can't form a growth plate or generate a gap for you to grow taller.
Wrong; https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2019.00270/full
QuotePluripotent stem cells are developmental progenitors of all adult tissues. Therefore, in theory, they must be intrinsically capable to form both, phenotypically stable articular cartilage and hypertrophic mineralizing cartilage
QuoteInduced pluripotent stem cells (iPSCs) can be reprogramed from any nucleated cell and expanded in culture without losing differentiation capacity (Yama a et al., 2018). Thus, unlimited cell quantities are available from minimally or non-invasive sources, which makes iPSCs highly attractive for cartilage regeneration.
To spell it out for you, iPSCs yamanaka factors with auxiliary bio printing can be used to turn any cell into growth plate chondrocytes in vitro, the only problem is finding out a way to do it in vivo effectively without any collateral damage around the region.
Quote from: Ghostfish on October 27, 2020, 01:51:56 AMI seriously doubt that any doctor or scientist would spend time and money on doing this type of research for adult.
Like I mentioned previously, a specific research conducted for growing taller purposes won't manifest because of the current state of society in the US and other derivative nations but that doesn't mean someone or likely perhaps a scientist won't be able to put together the prospective developments tangentially related to height growth in way that'll result in a superior method of growing taller which will in turn make him or her a billionaire overnight.
Only thing you can say is nananana it won't ever happen like one uneducated hillbilly luddite that's stuck in one's ways who refuse to even entertain such a possibility because of the classic sunk cost fallacy.
Quote from: Ghostfish on October 27, 2020, 01:51:56 AMOn the other hand, I did cll with stryder. Although I may not expect 100% recovery, it has been great to me. I believe that as long as you find a good doctor and extend your bone to a safe limit, whether or not it is external or internal, the chance for any serious complication is very very low.
Hopefully we won't ever see you here again after you've recovered from the surgery cause the only people who're here after undergoing it are neurotic depressed mess of a human being that can't seem to move on even after supposedly curing their neurosis (yeah and some completely mentally sound veterans).
I think your best bet would be to try to max out growth hormones. I would hit the gym and be also otherwise active doing sports. Proper amino acids intake may increase growth hormones so I would consume Whey protein (protein shakes) everyday. Also make sure to get plenty of Calcium, Magnesium, Vitamin D, possibly Boron.
I was around 181 cm at age of 20 and now at 24 I am 184,5 cm. I have been supplementing with whey protein, and the above minerals and vitamins listed for several years now.
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