Quote from: ZUCC420 on October 31, 2020, 01:50:44 PMI don't know what weight pressure means but even if you have "high degree education in biology related field" that doesn't mean anything other than you have a degree in a field related to biology. I also don't understand your theoretical considerations or worries but my point was simply a basic consequence of using stem cells, the main goal which is to inject them onto the human body that's it, that's like one of the first priority of scientists currently.
If you think you can contribute to the discussion why don't you join https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/lsjl/the-most-important-topic-in-growth-plate-reopening-t1029.html instead of writing off something completely by using undefined terms in an equivocating manner just to assert your conclusion.
Also I've a minor in biology so I've something of a direct high degree education concerning biology but I'm not a person to first consider someone's age or qualifications when having a theoretical discussion.
Hi Zucc
Well, you are even saying that you have something of a direct high degree education concerning biology, just becasue you have a minor in biology. However, I have a major and PhD. in biology area and been working in that field for a long time. In fact, I've also studied stem cells although it was not my strong area.
In vivo settings are very different from in vitro settings. There is no weight pr mechanical pressure against stem cells or iPS in vitro setting, so they can grow or differentiate into chondrocytes or growth plate like structure, sort of in random fashion. However within body, if you inject stem cells/iPS into bone or joint, most of them will simply die. Some surviving cells within the gap or a space may re-proliferate into osteoblasts, which can then fill a gap in the bone or help bone growth. However, they can't form a growth plate, which requires so many other factors, including overcoming weight from the body and no space. Growth plate is a very unique structure in the bone. As you know, it is a sort of gap and sort but supporting body weight. To make growth plate in the bone where there is no gap anymore, stem cells need to form a gap in the very rock hard place, while supporting body weight. That is really really hard. Replacing dying cells, or empty tissue areas due to cell death with stem cell differentiated tissue specific cells is relatively possible. But regenerating a growth plate in adult bone using stem cells is a really challenging subject. Although it could or will be possible someday, it is very unlikely it will happen anytime soon (like within 20 years or so).
Anyway, I think this will be the last reply for you. Whether you understand or not, it is up to you.
Good luck!
LSJL is the future.
Fu-ck LL!
Quote from: Ghostfish on November 01, 2020, 07:44:41 AMIn fact, I've also studied stem cells although it was not my strong area.
So what man? I studied Math, Biology, Physics, Chemistry in high school for 6 years. Yet I possess 0 knowledge in those subjects now.
Quote from: Ghostfish on November 01, 2020, 07:44:41 AMAnyway, I think this will be the last reply for you. Whether you understand or not, it is up to you.
Your patronizing attitude and self righteousness laid bare "ohh so obvious" conclusion derived as a result of doing PHD in a biology related field which you have to let everyone here know twice reeks of condescension and an appeal to authority without any good reason. I thought we could have a discussion regardless of our qualifications but seems your in a rush to leave this exchange while hurling out an unfounded assertion, whatever I couldn't care less.
LSJL is pseudoscience just admit it.There are very little feats about LSJL cuz I've ever browsed LSJL forum.
Anyway if you're talking about LL it's definitely possible in the future cuz many surprising techiniques would spring up in the future.But if you're talking about any surgeries about height it's definitely impossible cuz genes determine heights most thus you can't change your heights without any postnatural methods only to know surgeries can change.
And to close that topic once and for all, "is it possible to grow without surgery"?
No it is not.
In some years (personally I believe is some decades) maybe but not for now.
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