LON in Vietnam

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Hi Normy,

Have been reading your journal with great interest as I myself am originally Vietnamese and would love to do CLL but a bit too scared to at the moment. I am glad that your surgery thus far has gone pretty smoothly and I wish you an easy (as poss) consolidation phase.

I would love to know more about your scars, you mentioned your doctor was doing a cosmetic procedure to reduce the appearance at one point? Would love to know how that worked out as being female that would be really important to me.

Thanks.

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He got quite offended on this forum so probably its better for hom to not write there. Write to him priv. He responds often.

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I'll probably be responding less often now as I have less free-time now that I'm back in the US. Just a brief update, I walk up and down stairs now, not necessarily with ease, but I do it several times per day. I also just completed a set of 10 body weight squats - kind of. I'm afraid to go too far down yet, and look ridiculous doing them since I'm on my tiptoes. Luckily, I'm in my house. I will start seeing a physical therapist on Tuesday and I hope to hear that everything looks good and I'll recover quickly. Everything seems okay to me, but it is reassuring to hear it from multiple sources. My scars aren't that bad. I'll maybe post them sometime. I just have scars where there was pin site tearing along the inside of my knees. As for the surgery scars, they are almost invisible. However, my scar healing ability has always been good, so your results may vary.

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Quote from: normythebear on March 18, 2018, 08:14:46 AMI'd rather not say because then all the haters are going to come and say things like "oh, you're so stupid, you'll be in a wheelchair the rest of your life" blah blah blah. It was more than 5.5 cm or whatever everyone always says is the absolute maximum anyone must ever lengthen no matter what. If, in a year's time I'm fully functional, I'll reveal how much I lengthened. I was moderately tall to begin with, so I don't feel it was an extreme length, but I don't want to hear it from all the naysayers, especially the ones who haven't done LL themselves, who always seem to be the most vocal. It was about 20% of my tibial length. I slight ballerina foot, slight knee contracture, and muscle atrophy, but I anticipated that and foresee it going away over time. I could have been more proactive in preventing the ballerina foot and especially the knee contracture, but the pin site tearing was causing so much pain that the only way I could sleep was to have my knees bent. I can actually straighten my legs out fairly with effort and was flexible prior to LL, so I am fairly confident this is a short-term problem. I was also decently powerful prior to LL, so I can correct the muscle atrophy. There is relatively little pain at this moment, but I get the occasional bone pain, which is actually the type of pain I was expecting this entire journey. Now, I just need to heal.

We talk about hard numbers here, but it really is about the relative increase of your previous total bone length. ~20% is the "safe limit", so you're fine there.

Quote from: normythebear on April 22, 2018, 10:52:25 AMI'll probably be responding less often now as I have less free-time now that I'm back in the US. Just a brief update, I walk up and down stairs now, not necessarily with ease, but I do it several times per day. I also just completed a set of 10 body weight squats - kind of. I'm afraid to go too far down yet, and look ridiculous doing them since I'm on my tiptoes. Luckily, I'm in my house. I will start seeing a physical therapist on Tuesday and I hope to hear that everything looks good and I'll recover quickly. Everything seems okay to me, but it is reassuring to hear it from multiple sources. My scars aren't that bad. I'll maybe post them sometime. I just have scars where there was pin site tearing along the inside of my knees. As for the surgery scars, they are almost invisible. However, my scar healing ability has always been good, so your results may vary.

Glad to hear you seem to be doing well.

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For interested people, message from them.

We has increased our price due to these following reasons:

1. We switched the hospital from the beginning of December 2017 onwards. Thanks to its advanced facilities and attentive care service, it's easily one of the best available and most expensive in all of the Ho Chi Minh city, thus the raise in the package fee. On top of that, from the beginning of December 2017 onwards, the government has imposed a new restriction that hospitals need to go through a series of accreditation and obtain a specific license if they want to operate a foreigner, which means foreign patients can not receive the surgery in an ordinary hospital anymore. They need to have the surgery done in hospitals that comply with the new restriction. As a result, they charge the foreign patients 40% higher than they charge the locals.

2. We invested a great deal of money to revamp the whole guesthouse and all rooms to make sure the patients have a pleasant stay here. All rooms are specifically designed to be wheelchair-friendly and easily accessible. Many subtle changes have been made to bring about a carefree recovery experience for the patients.

3. Salary raise for our staff. Cost increase in meals and ingredients.

4. Costs for the lawyer and notarisation of contracts for the maximum protection of patients' interest and peace of mind. Risk funds for potential complications as a result of surgery is also established to ensure potential complications would be treayed in a timely fashion.

5. We also improve with cosmetic sewing technique for your scars and your pinsite as well as reduce the pinsite size.

6. We have developed an anti-ballenrine shoes for patients to wear during their lengthening period so that they will have second to none ballenrine feet.


Along with a new form of contract.
Which state:
1. If you have any kind of complication, we will fix it for free until healed with charging any fee (Including accommodation, meals, surgery fee etc)
2. If we cannot fix it, you can go to another doctor and we will cover 100% of the cost
3. We will give you warranty 10 years after the first surgery.


For the internal nail, we are working on it. As soon as we ready to release it, we will let you know.

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Quote from: lucindaris on April 24, 2018, 02:14:08 PMFor interested people, message from them.

We has increased our price due to these following reasons:

1. We switched the hospital from the beginning of December 2017 onwards. Thanks to its advanced facilities and attentive care service, it's easily one of the best available and most expensive in all of the Ho Chi Minh city, thus the raise in the package fee. On top of that, from the beginning of December 2017 onwards, the government has imposed a new restriction that hospitals need to go through a series of accreditation and obtain a specific license if they want to operate a foreigner, which means foreign patients can not receive the surgery in an ordinary hospital anymore. They need to have the surgery done in hospitals that comply with the new restriction. As a result, they charge the foreign patients 40% higher than they charge the locals.

2. We invested a great deal of money to revamp the whole guesthouse and all rooms to make sure the patients have a pleasant stay here. All rooms are specifically designed to be wheelchair-friendly and easily accessible. Many subtle changes have been made to bring about a carefree recovery experience for the patients.

3. Salary raise for our staff. Cost increase in meals and ingredients.

4. Costs for the lawyer and notarisation of contracts for the maximum protection of patients' interest and peace of mind. Risk funds for potential complications as a result of surgery is also established to ensure potential complications would be treayed in a timely fashion.

5. We also improve with cosmetic sewing technique for your scars and your pinsite as well as reduce the pinsite size.

6. We have developed an anti-ballenrine shoes for patients to wear during their lengthening period so that they will have second to none ballenrine feet.


Along with a new form of contract.
Which state:
1. If you have any kind of complication, we will fix it for free until healed with charging any fee (Including accommodation, meals, surgery fee etc)
2. If we cannot fix it, you can go to another doctor and we will cover 100% of the cost
3. We will give you warranty 10 years after the first surgery.


For the internal nail, we are working on it. As soon as we ready to release it, we will let you know.
It is so impressive that they are saying If we cannot fix it, you can go to another doctor and we will cover 100% of the cost

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What are the lengthening costs in vietnam for 2 segments?

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Just  multiply by 2.

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Where is your info coming from? Dr. Solomin and Dr. Kulesh are very experienced and there have been multiple patients here who had a successfull LL with them. It is so cheap because the Rouble(russian currency) has fallen by a huge amount. Please don't compare it to India. I'm not just saying this because I'm getting it done there myself but based on sole facts coming from this forum and also other patients. After all it's the birthplace of the LL itself, that has to account for something.

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Hamiltonzac, not sure I understand why you're talking defensively in the last message.

You asked "What are the lengthening costs in vietnam for 2 segments?" and the cost is whatever it is for one surgery multiplied by two. $18,000 * 2 = $36,000 for both tibias and femurs.