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Posted on Mar 10, 2014, 2:49 am
#141

I agree Smallguy. No sense in worrying. I just want out of this f**king place so bad. I'll probably need to go on some sort of disability too (if I'm even eligible) because I know I won't be ready for work in May which is when my employer wanted me back and I'm on the verge of being broke now. I despise myself for being a self-inflicted burden on the system too, but I've paid well over $60k in taxes too, so I guess I kinda deserve it, lol.....

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Posted on Mar 10, 2014, 3:01 am
#142

Quote from: Cyber on March 10, 2014, 02:29:05 AMI hope everything goes well for you Polycrates.
It's not the end of the world, just a minor setback to overcome.
Hopefully, the other patients are faring better.

It would be interesting to hear what your physio say. You also have to remember that it seems like there is a business comes first mentality going on in India and that business undertones seems to prevail everything - at least according to what I have read.
Maybe the physio or other staff, may withhold important information in fear that you announce it to the world. Or lie to you and give you misinformation to temporary "appease you."

In fact, why is it that your physio is even giving you medical advice when it should be the Medical Doctor Surgeon who should be coming in to advise and treat you?

Your physio should not be the one to advise you on your X-rays, or your frames or anything. In any other modern medical establishment, the physio is there solely to aid you in proper Physiotherapy treatment and then leave. Not act as an unlicensed, pseudo radiologist-neurologist-pharmacist-ortho-surgeon-medical doctor.


Listen, I'm just as astounded as you are. Some patients here, many which are/were Indian, think the physio is a doctor. Take LL ForumorLife for example, who thinks he's a hero with his ridiculous video where he's carrying the flower pot.  He acts as if he's completely healed, but you can clearly see he has an odd gait and he still walks with a cane. He thought Indian physios rival doctors here. The physios love to boast of their five year educations as well to show how much it is they know.

The minimal supervision by the doctor over medical issues is absolutely deplorable. There have been times when other patients are being told things and I have to bite my tongue from exploding on them for their negligence in care. I can tell stories but I'm reticent to because some patients believe their issues should remain confidential. It's up to them to inform people of them. What would be the point in me lashing out now when nothing can be done of it? However, if I do hear someone mention again how prestigious and glorious Indian medicine and doc Sringari are one more time, they will get a piece of my mind and it won't be restrained.

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Posted on Mar 10, 2014, 3:05 am
#143

Double post... And Sysop, if you're lurking here, I want my likeness removed from your site. I told you once, and I'll tell you again here because I've already requested my account be disabled for the second time, remove...

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Posted on Mar 10, 2014, 4:28 am
#144

Quote from: Smallguy on March 10, 2014, 02:44:34 AMHey, I heard somewhere that 50% of the patient issues come from his/her own mind. Maybe you will come out of this healthy and pain-free. Who knows. If not, then you have that old man to thank for (fake diary & doctor's affiliation $).

It is already what it is at this point. So worrying won't help. When I came back, my family doc said, after looking at my xray, that I won't walk again. We were setting me up on Canada disability tax credit. I pay a lot of taxes every year. However, in one month I came back walking, then he took that privilege away from me.

I'm glad that I'm not a burden to my country!

Cyber. You seem very knowledgeable on this subject. Did you go by a different username on the old forum? Welcome to this forum!


Hi Smallguy, I do have an old forum  account, but I am not going to disclose it because I post there.
I've seen how others are banned when they freely express themselves on topics that contain critical knowledge that concern's potential patients/current patient's safety and well-being, especially when it when it does not agree with SysOP's marketing agenda.
Seeing how obsessively SysOp monitors old forum , it would be no surprise that he is probably always infatuated by this site as well. Obsessing over forums seems to is his full time job - maybe that guy has no life?
It's ironic that he even has the audacity to accuse people who occasionally contribute to this site, when it is him who has an unhealthy obsession, love affair and paranoia over old forum , and possibly this site, every waking moment.
Knowing this, and how paranoid SysOP is whenever people expose the truths, he would probably ban me after reading the comments here and justify it as his "divine" intervention. He is, after all, an insecure, paranoid, self-proclaimed LL expert, (illegal) unlicensed pseudo-doctor, and pathetic wannabe "forum god."

I've just learned those things from many months of reading and from my personal consultations with a few Doctors. If you think I know quite a bit, then thank you. But you have to thank the many doctors and honest people beforehand for providing that sort of information.


Quote Big faker is a coward for keeping his mouth shut about his complications, far from a honest diary he promised.   A new guy wants to come to Dr Sringari, the management told bigfaker to talk to him on skype  and he's not telling him the truth.


This was the reason I worried that marketing business is prevalent that the overall integrity of the practice is put into question and when patient's safety/well-being is put aside. It seems they are using current patients pawns to shill in their cowardly game, and treating people around the world as "dollar signs" by obviously, lying, withholding, or providing false information (physios calling themselves "medical" doctors) is so rampant.

On another note: to all those appalling scumbags who think it is okay to purposely withhold critical infomation that potential LL patients should know about or outright provide false information and shill for the benefit of those management scumbags and possibly themselves (remember all the shills from Sarin?), remember, karma will come bite you back.

I really hope Big Faker is not shilling for anyone at the expense of other innocent people's safety and well-being. Also, I really hope patients such as Big Faker are not put into a position where they are forced to shill corrupt people.

Quote Listen, I'm just as astounded as you are. Some patients here, many which are/were Indian, think the physio is a doctor. Take LL ForumorLife for example, who thinks he's a hero with his ridiculous video where he's carrying the flower pot.  He acts as if he's completely healed, but you can clearly see he has an odd gait and he still walks with a cane. He thought Indian physios rival doctors here. The physios love to boast of their five year educations as well to show how much it is they know.

The minimal supervision by the doctor over medical issues is absolutely deplorable. There have been times when other patients are being told things and I have to bite my tongue from exploding on them for their negligence in care. I can tell stories but I'm reticent to because some patients believe their issues should remain confidential. It's up to them to inform people of them. What would be the point in me lashing out now when nothing can be done of it? However, if I do hear someone mention again how prestigious and glorious Indian medicine and doc Sringari are one more time, they will get a piece of my mind and it won't be restrained.


Thank you for being brave and exposing the truths for us. You don't know how many lives you can change for the better because of this. There should be more people like you out there who provide honest information, and not just paint a fake, yet rosy image that lures uninformed people who would have their health jeopardized.

Anyone who has been reading these forums should know by now how sketchy, questionable, and potentially dangerous doing LL in India could be - a big red flag should have popped up when the same staff that was there during the Sarin craze are the same people who are managing Sringari's clinic.

And what about the recovery afterwards? It seems the recovery of most Indian patients are questionable at best; full of strife and strain (look at poor Sweden).

I hope everything goes well for you Polycrates. Remember again, it's not the end of the world. Maybe everything in India turned out ok. If not at least, hopefully it can be fixed in your home country. You are lucky that citizens in your country have access to high quality, free medical health care!

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Posted on Mar 10, 2014, 5:01 am
#145

Polycrates,

Maybe you could see Dr. Parihar in Mumbai once you're able to leave the guesthouse? Judging from what I have seen of his youtube videos and his prior training under Dr. Paley, he should be able to give you sound advice that you can't get from Dr. Sringari or the physios there.

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Posted on Mar 10, 2014, 5:20 am
#146

Yeah,

Perhaps I will do a stopover flight in Mumbai before I head back. I contemplated this as well. If he were in Delhi, I would've gone to him by now.

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Posted on Mar 10, 2014, 6:15 am
#147

Unless you can afford the extra flight ticket to Mumbai to say Hi to Dr. Parihar, the only place I would want to go after finishing my LL goal is home. Though kind and knowledgeable, I doubt Dr. Parihar would help you for free (I may be wrong LON with the boys at Dr Sringari--India (Complete))

Canada has a pool of qualified doctors. My doctor from Vancouver General Hospital also does LL but just not for cosmetic purposes. And I fully endorse you to seek help from our medical system. It wasn't your fault for reading some fake phantom diary. I was kidding when I said, I wasn't a burden to our country. Actually, if you haven't, you should try to be in contact with either your family physician or an ortho in your city by now. That way when you come back you can reap the benefit of our medical system right away.

Cyber... I didn't know that it was still consider a value to be able to access that site. The only diary which I look forward to reading on that site is actually my own. I still want to linger on the memory when I still have my gf. But even that was edited... so unless people think it's a status to hang out with a hairless man in his 40s with 21cm of disproportion who has an array of marketing agendas, then I dont see any value of going back there. Plus we have many more on this site... a couple of veterans who are willing to help others (Medium drink, rgkey, calic, etc) plus a doctor who has free time in between operations. I don't want that villain on that site to make any money.

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Posted on Mar 10, 2014, 6:52 am
#148

I've been refraining myself from reading too many posts because every time I delve into it I'd find something that scares the crap out of me.  I guess I'm not the only one who's pray to get out of india walking.

I read this entire post in about 30 minutes.  I found out that I'm have the same issue Smallguy had. Also im suffering from nerve damage. I pray that it would come back after a while, so far no luck.

As far as doctors, nurses and caretakers are concerned, they lack the proper skills and knowledge to properly care for patients. Just pray that everything goes well, no correction can be expected. Nurses don't even know about LL procedures,  they only look at the chart and give you pills then leave. Occasionally they'll ask "why are you doing this, or did you have an accident?". Once again I'll reiterate the point others had made. The good intentions are there from doctors, nurses and caretakers.  They are kind, most of them don't even eat meat and they're so skinny. They work long hours and less wage. They do everything they can to make you feel comfortable but compare to western standard it's way way below.

Do take precautions if you're coming this way.

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Posted on Mar 10, 2014, 7:07 am
#149

Bullsurfer,

Who are you with and what kind of nerve damage have you incurred?

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Posted on Mar 10, 2014, 7:42 am
#150

I don't want to say too much about my experience.  I'm the suffer in silence type. I expect people to do their job and behave decently in the wworld. Sometimes I think I should speak up more but what's the point. What's done is done.

I can tell you that I'm not with any doctor with name starts with an S. My nerve damaged due to doctor's negligence or lack of skill or both. I can cry about it or just be quiet and see if problem goes away, I did tell my doctor about the issue and he gave me the classic response everyone dread "Don't worry about it".

I too have to learn about India work ethic the hard way. Promises never materialized,  easy going, and procrastination.

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