Quote from: google42 on May 03, 2017, 01:46:49 AMMore wealth equals less stress and more food. It is true though that it wouldn't make a huge difference, it would take generations to raise the average just a few inches.
Is there any evidence of mental stress affecting height? I haven't seen any.
i would say 6 ft gonna be average in the nearest future(20-30 years) somewhere its already average(Montenegro and Netherlands) also 6 ft 1 suppose to be more common height that now but there no question about average height like 6 ft 3 or so, this is hilarious! 
Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on May 03, 2017, 04:45:00 PMIs there any evidence of mental stress affecting height? I haven't seen any.
Idk know for sure but you can google it. I think it may indirectly affect height just like how people say caffeine might stunt growth but it's really not the caffeine, it's not getting enough sleep. I'm not so sure on this though.
the height is an adaptation to the environment and if you are so taller you have disadvantage in this adaptation, in the sports and others situations, you are slower, clumsy, etc.
The height can,t go much more 5'11 because the nature is wise.
Quote from: paco1 on May 03, 2017, 08:55:33 PMthe height is an adaptation to the environment and if you are so taller you have disadvantage in this adaptation, in the sports and others situations, you are slower, clumsy, etc.
The height can,t go much more 5'11 because the nature is wise.
And cardiological, blood flow, posture problems etc.
you are right
Quote from: paco1 on May 03, 2017, 08:55:33 PMthe height is an adaptation to the environment and if you are so taller you have disadvantage in this adaptation, in the sports and others situations, you are slower, clumsy, etc.
The height can,t go much more 5'11 because the nature is wise.
Utter crap. Provide any credible source for this assertion.
Look a those slow, clumsy athletes in the NFL, NBA, Heavyweight Boxing etc. 6'6" Usain Bolt is so slow.
Quote from: 682 on May 04, 2017, 12:40:47 AMUtter crap. Provide any credible source for this assertion.
Look a those slow, clumsy athletes in the NFL, NBA, Heavyweight Boxing etc. 6'6" Usain Bolt is so slow.
Bolt is a mistery as being 6'4.5 is considered a disadvantage to sprinting (best heights were always 176-185 which are average and normal tall heights).
Comparing normal humans to elite athletes is wrong since elite athletes are not the norm.
Just like not all short guys can be elite gymnastics, not all tall guys can be good at basketball and play in the NBA.
Although it seems many NBA players are just there because they are tall (the low tier teams) and nothing else
Quote from: 682 on May 04, 2017, 12:40:47 AMUtter crap. Provide any credible source for this assertion.
Look a those slow, clumsy athletes in the NFL, NBA, Heavyweight Boxing etc. 6'6" Usain Bolt is so slow.
Not crap at all.
The men with the most athletic bodies are always average height or just 1-2 inches more than average.
Basketball players is an exception of course because height in this sport is very important.
In bodybuilding where there are athletes from every height, almost all the mr Olympias weere from 5.7 to 5.10.
That means a lot for men's aesthetics.
Paco is absolutely right. Tall people is not the future because they need more food, more space, they live less, they have more injuries and they are more clumsy.
Always average height to just a little more (5.10 to 6ft) will be the ideal height for men in every aspect and nature won't let the average man be more than that.
people do not shrink between 40 and 59. very rare
so the study shows caucasian americans are getting taller
right now it would be between 179 and 180. might even be 180.
bodybuilder, The vast majority of people do not consider Mr Olympia aesthetics to be appealing. Most of these guys are around 171 and 172 cm and weigh around 120 kilos with 2% bodyfat.
The men with the most pleasing physiques are swimmers and water polo players. Both are quite tall on average
Quote from: Jack1066 on April 22, 2017, 06:37:37 PMSigh, not this again.
Average height has not changed in America in the past 2 generations- not if you account for the fact that people generally lose a little height with age. Some studies even say it is now decreasing.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr010.pdf#page=15
press crtl+f and search for 178.9 on this link. The sample size is small, but big enough to give a fairly solid estimate.
Quite a few other studies back that up too. From what I remember, average height is actually declining in the USA now for some groups, and stagnating for almost everyone. Maybe that's because of wealth inequality, and the rich are getting taller and the poor are getting shorter, but I think it's more likely that height has almost been maxed out. This one gives the highest estimate for young white men I know of.
In the UK it is still increasing but very slowly. If I look around I'd say 175-182 cm is average, but that's just by eye- according to the statistics though, that should be about right.
It depends on where you are, too. I live in south Wales which is renowned for having short (white, British) men. I am 173 and even I am often one of the taller people in the room when I go out here- if I'm with local people- even with the young local people I'm solidly average. But with (wealthy) students from other parts of Britain, I am short. Their average is closer to 180 cm, but I think 183 cm still looks pretty tall, and I couldn't call that average- I have a few friends that height and they are noticeably tall.
Plus average height for white Italians was 175 in about 1970-80, but since the 90s it has increased. You can see that if you look on wikipedia. I imagine seeing as Italy is quite a wealthy nation it will probably not increase much more.
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