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Posted on Nov 15, 2013, 6:02 pm
#81

Human beings take 1-2 years to consolidate. That's fact and if you want to speed things up there are a couple of things one can do, even illegal supplements.

Bodybuilder didn't have 4 unstable monorails on his legs.
The monorail is not built to stand your weight.
Many patient experience bent femurs and lots of complications with monorail. They never come back even close to 90% of their former self.

If you have 6-7cm gap in your bone it WILL take you a full year to consolidate for you to be able to walk.

When you lengthen and the bone joins prematurely it does that in one small area, enough to be unable to continue lengthen but NOT to walk around with!!

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Posted on Nov 15, 2013, 6:37 pm
#82

I am really encouraged by your positivity, yet,


Bodybuilder spent 10 months+ in frames, he also only did tibias and was an athlete beforehand. He actually also says in his diary that "monorails are not weight bearable after 5cm", again only tibias.


I don't think its realistic that you will spend only 5-6 months in frames  VERY FERST STEP - INDIA - Dr. Anil Raheja.


Perhaps link a diary where someone did quad lengthening external only and spent 6 months in frames to put our minds at rest?

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Posted on Nov 16, 2013, 2:56 am
#83

 

no, there is no prior experience or diary about someone who did both parts that i read
BUT as I said in the beginning I think technically this is possible...

so what I 'll do  right now
1-conitunue lengthening
2-Doing more exercise as much as possible "yesterday I was able to rise my right leg without any help, and for me this a great achievement VERY FERST STEP - INDIA - Dr. Anil Raheja"
3- I'll take stem cell in the consolidation phase if it's not work after 2-3months I'll go to another Dr to insert nail inside my legs  I think this is possible and it will keep me in the safe side, but so far I do trust my Dr and I'll do whatever he said ...

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Posted on Nov 16, 2013, 4:28 am
#84

It took me a couple of weeks to be able to lift my legs.

I must know. How can you even believe consolidation only takes 2-3 months? Why do everyone have the nails inside for 2 years do you think? Some even longer.

With external Ilizarov ring device only you need to have them on for 10 months MINIMUM if you want 5cm of height gain. That is if everything work out fine all the way.

Nobody is here to fool you. I can speak for all of us when I say we all want you to end up as good as possible.

Taking stem cells is for non union. I have a hard time believing it will speed up recovery. Mostly steroids speed things up(even aging).
Even if it did work you will still need the monorails on your legs. It doesn't take a week or so to consolidate one bone after stem cell injection. It will still take months.

Continue your diary so we know your doing well. Tell the new guy to go home again.

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Posted on Nov 17, 2013, 3:44 am
#85

Disobedient,

Sweden is right. Anyone or myself is not here to criticize you or judge you, but you had to do your homework before choosing to undergo leg lengthening. I'm in my 30's and I've been researching and lurking these kind of forums for more than 6 - 7 years. Unfortunately due to financial reason I haven't been able to have CLL yet. However, I read and found out so much that I know exactly what I'll be getting myself into. What Sweden is trying to tell you is that even though the monorail frame could seem more comfortable than the Ilizarov frame, it doesn't have the capability of maintaining your bones straight when lengthening large amounts, and could even make your bones snap when putting too much weight on it (do a google research). The Ilizarov is bulkier and more uncomfortable but it was designed to sustain weight and because of its shape it can realign bones if they start growing crooked. Many years ago I remember a girl who did quadrilateral lengthening (external only) in Ukraine with Dr Veklich who used his own version of Ilizarov that were half the circumference of the rings (very unstable). She kept updating in anold forum for the first couple of months and then when she started experiencing problems, she just vanished and to this day who knows what happened to her. Anyways, in your case what is done is done, but you should seriously reconsider not lengthening to the extreme, not only for the long time it will take you to recover but also because a lot of people once they pass 7-8cm of height start showing signs of disproportion. You're a female, so picture yourself with a lot of extra height plus wearing high heels -- you will look funny. So, give it a thought and whatever you decide I wish you the best and please keep updating us. 
       

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Posted on Nov 17, 2013, 3:57 am
#86

Quote from: Leonardo2013 on November 17, 2013, 03:44:53 AMDisobedient,

Sweden is right. Anyone or myself is not here to criticize you or judge you, but you had to do your homework before choosing to undergo leg lengthening. I'm in my 30's and I've been researching and lurking these kind of forums for more than 6 - 7 years. Unfortunately due to financial reason I haven't been able to have CLL yet. However, I read and found out so much that I know exactly what I'll be getting myself into. What Sweden is trying to tell you is that even though the monorail frame could seem more comfortable than the Ilizarov frame, it doesn't have the capability of maintaining your bones straight when lengthening large amounts, and could even make your bones snap when putting too much weight on it (do a google research). The Ilizarov is bulkier and more uncomfortable but it was designed to sustain weight and because of its shape it can realign bones if they start growing crooked. Many years ago I remember a girl who did quadrilateral lengthening (external only) in Ukraine with Dr Veklich who used his own version of Ilizarov that were half the circumference of the rings (very unstable). She kept updating in anold forum for the first couple of months and then when she started experiencing problems, she just vanished and to this day who knows what happened to her. Anyways, in your case what is done is done, but you should seriously reconsider not lengthening to the extreme, not only for the long time it will take you to recover but also because a lot of people once they pass 7-8cm of height start showing signs of disproportion. You're a female, so picture yourself with a lot of extra height plus wearing high heels -- you will look funny. Look a picture of Hajnal Ban (she went to Kurgan and publish her book "God made me small, surgery made me tall") http://bellapetite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/before-after-leg-lenghtening.jpg
She lengthened 8cm and look a her disproportion with high heels. So, give it a thought and whatever you decide I wish you the best and please keep updating us. 
       

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Posted on Nov 19, 2013, 3:34 am
#87

Disobedient, this is going to be a long journey ahead for you.  We all want you to recover well, but please understand that if you had asked us before surgery, most people would not agree on your decision to do quadrilateral lengthening. 

I cannot emphasis that enough for the sake of anyone reading this diary.  My personal opinion is the risk level is high and the recovery would be very long for quadrilateral lengthening.  We cannot force your friend's decision, but really he need to think very carefully about it and understand the amount of risks first.
 
Please consider the various advice of members here and keep us updated.

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Posted on Nov 19, 2013, 6:59 am
#88



Thank u all for the advices

I am now in the hospital and tomorrow will be my surgery. (my target 3.7 tibia 3.7 femur). 

I was in india since 1/11 witnessing Disobedient and I can tell she is doing well so far with no major complications but the nee bending issue and I hope she can overcome.

at present moment Just wish us all the best.

- Disobedient : u r the bravest person I ever met and I know u will success, but as agreed lets stop on 10cm 5cm/5cm  VERY FERST STEP - INDIA - Dr. Anil Raheja


just to tell I was reading old forum  for about a year if someone want to know

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Posted on Nov 19, 2013, 8:14 am
#89

Quote from: Shorty on November 19, 2013, 06:59:56 AM
just to tell I was reading old forum  for about a year if someone want to know

Clearly you haven't understood it.

3,7cm is doable, but since you can't weight bear or hardly any exercises you will have a very long road ahead of you.
It will take around 2-3 years to walk without a strain.

You're not getting any nail inside so the monorails have be on your legs for 9-10 months.
Only after 3 months you have already destroyed your body by not moving around.
Imagine 9 months.......

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Posted on Nov 19, 2013, 12:26 pm
#90

Quote from: Shorty on November 19, 2013, 06:59:56 AM
Thank u all for the advices

I am now in the hospital and tomorrow will be my surgery. (my target 3.7 tibia 3.7 femur). 

I was in india since 1/11 witnessing Disobedient and I can tell she is doing well so far with no major complications but the nee bending issue and I hope she can overcome.

at present moment Just wish us all the best.

- Disobedient : u r the bravest person I ever met and I know u will success, but as agreed lets stop on 10cm 5cm/5cm  VERY FERST STEP - INDIA - Dr. Anil Raheja


just to tell I was reading old forum  for about a year if someone want to know

Can you walk me through your thought process for doing quad lengthening rather than just doing 7.5cm with LON on tibias? Every way I look at it 7.5cm LON is far superior. The ONLY benefit I can possibly see is that you will reach your goal height sooner, yet, those doing LON will walk like a year before you so that isn't really a benefit.

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