Quote from: ZUCC420 on November 11, 2020, 03:27:32 PMYap all of this is addressed in the video I linked, which is just another post hoc rationalization.
Like Stardusk said they could produce thousands of studies detailing how parents are unhappy than non parents of the same age but people will still reproduce because it is inevitably a result of our evolution, it's coded in the DNA of the majority of people to want to have kids as ultimately people's instincts supplants reason.
I don’t think that having kids is for everyone, and I’m sure that some parents would be happier if they didn’t have kids. But for me, seeing my child smile is the highest form of happiness I’ve ever experienced. I wouldn’t trade this feeling for anything in the world, and no philosopher or study can convince me otherwise. It’s somehow comparable to the feeling of giving a gift to someone you love and seeing how happy it is making them—just a thousand times more intense.
When I was suffering from hypogonadism, I also had some serious spells of depression and spent a few weeks in the hospital. It was a terrible time, but it did not make me wish I had never been born. Imagine going on a two-week vacation and having a terrible first day—it’s raining, your wallet gets stolen, etc. But the rest of your vacation is just awesome—lots of sunshine, parties, great food, etc. At the end of your vacation, would you regret having gone on vacation in the first place just because the first day was terrible?
Just another example, an old friend of mine (who was a real Chad in high school) had a motorcycle accident in his early twenties and has been confined to a wheelchair since. He was severely depressed for at least two to three years following his accident before he turned his life around. Nowadays he’s one of the happiest guys I know. He has a beautiful daughter and wife and is one of the most successful Paralympic athletes in the world.
As a parent, you can never guarantee that your child will always be happy, but there’s a lot you can do to make sure that there’s more light than darkness in your child’s life and that they will lead a happy and fulfilling life despite any potential challenges and adversities. But again, just because raising my child is the best thing in the world for me, doesn’t mean that everyone needs to have children in order to be happy.
Who also needs this surgery for girlfriend's mother like me??
Quote from: ZUCC420 on November 11, 2020, 03:27:32 PMYap all of this is addressed in the video I linked, which is just another post hoc rationalization.
Like Stardusk said they could produce thousands of studies detailing how parents are unhappy than non parents of the same age but people will still reproduce because it is inevitably a result of our evolution, it's coded in the DNA of the majority of people to want to have kids as ultimately people's instincts supplants reason.
I don’t think that having kids is for everyone, and I’m sure that some parents would be happier if they didn’t have kids. But for me, seeing my child smile is the highest form of happiness I’ve ever experienced. I wouldn’t trade this feeling for anything in the world, and no philosopher or study can convince me otherwise. It’s somehow comparable to the feeling of giving a gift to someone you love and seeing how happy it is making them—just a thousand times more intense.
When I was suffering from hypogonadism, I also had some serious spells of depression and spent a few weeks in the hospital. It was a terrible time, but it did not make me wish I had never been born. Imagine going on a two-week vacation and having a terrible first day—it’s raining, your wallet gets stolen, etc. But the rest of your vacation is just awesome—lots of sunshine, parties, great food, etc. At the end of your vacation, would you regret having gone on vacation in the first place just because the first day was terrible?
Just another example, an old friend of mine (who was a real Chad in high school) had a motorcycle accident in his early twenties and has been confined to a wheelchair since. He was severely depressed for at least two to three years following his accident before he turned his life around. Nowadays he’s one of the happiest guys I know. He has a beautiful daughter and wife and is one of the most successful Paralympic athletes in the world.
As a parent, you can never guarantee that your child will always be happy, but there’s a lot you can do to make sure that there’s more light than darkness in your child’s life and that they will lead a happy and fulfilling life despite any potential challenges and adversities. But again, just because raising my child is the best thing in the world for me, doesn’t mean that everyone needs to have children in order to be happy.
Quote from: NotSoBigBadBruin on November 11, 2020, 08:54:14 PMI don’t think that having kids is for everyone, and I’m sure that some parents would be happier if they didn’t have kids. But for me, seeing my child smile is the highest form of happiness I’ve ever experienced. I wouldn’t trade this feeling for anything in the world, and no philosopher or study can convince me otherwise. It’s somehow comparable to the feeling of giving a gift to someone you love and seeing how happy it is making them—just a thousand times more intense.
When I was suffering from hypogonadism, I also had some serious spells of depression and spent a few weeks in the hospital. It was a terrible time, but it did not make me wish I had never been born. Imagine going on a two-week vacation and having a terrible first day—it’s raining, your wallet gets stolen, etc. But the rest of your vacation is just awesome—lots of sunshine, parties, great food, etc. At the end of your vacation, would you regret having gone on vacation in the first place just because the first day was terrible?
Just another example, an old friend of mine (who was a real Chad in high school) had a motorcycle accident in his early twenties and has been confined to a wheelchair since. He was severely depressed for at least two to three years following his accident before he turned his life around. Nowadays he’s one of the happiest guys I know. He has a beautiful daughter and wife and is one of the most successful Paralympic athletes in the world.
As a parent, you can never guarantee that your child will always be happy, but there’s a lot you can do to make sure that there’s more light than darkness in your child’s life and that they will lead a happy and fulfilling life despite any potential challenges and adversities. But again, just because raising my child is the best thing in the world for me, doesn’t mean that everyone needs to have children in order to be happy.
To cover,parents with bad genes shoulnd't have children or that'll really screw up your children.Don't let'em reexperience your pain and there's also no meaning to pass on dwarflike genes.That's what I thought so that's my mother-in-law's fault.
Quote from: NotSoBigBadBruin on November 11, 2020, 08:54:14 PMI don’t think that having kids is for everyone, and I’m sure that some parents would be happier if they didn’t have kids. But for me, seeing my child smile is the highest form of happiness I’ve ever experienced. I wouldn’t trade this feeling for anything in the world, and no philosopher or study can convince me otherwise. It’s somehow comparable to the feeling of giving a gift to someone you love and seeing how happy it is making them—just a thousand times more intense.
When I was suffering from hypogonadism, I also had some serious spells of depression and spent a few weeks in the hospital. It was a terrible time, but it did not make me wish I had never been born. Imagine going on a two-week vacation and having a terrible first day—it’s raining, your wallet gets stolen, etc. But the rest of your vacation is just awesome—lots of sunshine, parties, great food, etc. At the end of your vacation, would you regret having gone on vacation in the first place just because the first day was terrible?
Just another example, an old friend of mine (who was a real Chad in high school) had a motorcycle accident in his early twenties and has been confined to a wheelchair since. He was severely depressed for at least two to three years following his accident before he turned his life around. Nowadays he’s one of the happiest guys I know. He has a beautiful daughter and wife and is one of the most successful Paralympic athletes in the world.
As a parent, you can never guarantee that your child will always be happy, but there’s a lot you can do to make sure that there’s more light than darkness in your child’s life and that they will lead a happy and fulfilling life despite any potential challenges and adversities. But again, just because raising my child is the best thing in the world for me, doesn’t mean that everyone needs to have children in order to be happy.
To cover,parents with bad genes shoulnd't have children or that'll really screw up your children.Don't let'em reexperience your pain and there's also no meaning to pass on dwarflike genes.That's what I thought so that's my mother-in-law's fault.
Quote from: 有匪君子 on November 12, 2020, 12:55:25 PMTo cover,parents with bad genes shoulnd't have children or that'll really screw up your children.Don't let'em reexperience your pain and there's also no meaning to pass on dwarflike genes.That's what I thought so that's my mother-in-law's fault.
No, quite the contrary! Even couples with “excellent genes” can have a mentally or physically challenged child (like my wife’s co-worker and her husband). There’s just no guarantee. And even though your child will most likely be below average height, given that both you and your girlfriend are not particularly tall, it doesn’t mean that your child can’t live a happy and fulfilling life (especially if it’s a girl).
Quote from: NotSoBigBadBruin on November 12, 2020, 01:57:31 PMNo, quite the contrary! Even couples with “excellent genes” can have a mentally or physically challenged child (like my wife’s co-worker and her husband). There’s just no guarantee. And even though your child will most likely be below average height, given that both you and your girlfriend are not particularly tall, it doesn’t mean that your child can’t live a happy and fulfilling life (especially if it’s a girl).
All of us here will pray so that he has a girl then, lmao.
Quote from: NotSoBigBadBruin on November 12, 2020, 01:57:31 PMNo, quite the contrary! Even couples with “excellent genes” can have a mentally or physically challenged child (like my wife’s co-worker and her husband). There’s just no guarantee. And even though your child will most likely be below average height, given that both you and your girlfriend are not particularly tall, it doesn’t mean that your child can’t live a happy and fulfilling life (especially if it’s a girl).
Well...That's problem about possibilities.Short men are mentals--------99.999999％.Tall men are mentals(comparing to short men)---------10％(and I don't think that's that much if that tall man is handsome and rich.I just equal them to short men).
All above you can see even though there's no guarantee that short men must have dysphoria and tall men must have health mental but the formers' possibilities are higher than the latters'.You can grasp it from Darwin's theory of evolution where you have to place much emphasis on Natural Selection.That's why I and my gf both don't hope to have any baby.I'm also convinced that every LLer here has once complained about his or her bad height gene because he or she is not tall.That's why we aim for LL.And I don't think as being Chinese,a people busy with work,can spare empty time to take care of children every second.He's also bombarded with study and work in future.I don't think he can grow happily as expected.
Quote from: 有匪君子 on November 13, 2020, 04:14:04 AMWell...That's problem about possibilities.Short men are mentals--------99.999999％.Tall men are mentals(comparing to short men)---------10％(and I don't think that's that much if that tall man is handsome and rich.I just equal them to short men).
All above you can see even though there's no guarantee that short men must have dysphoria and tall men must have health mental but the formers' possibilities are higher than the latters'.You can grasp it from Darwin's theory of evolution where you have to place much emphasis on Natural Selection.That's why I and my gf both don't hope to have any baby.I'm also convinced that every LLer here has once complained about his or her bad height gene because he or she is not tall.That's why we aim for LL.And I don't think as being Chinese,a people busy with work,can spare empty time to take care of children every second.He's also bombarded with study and work in future.I don't think he can grow happily as expected.
Those numbers are only based on your own distorted perception. I know plenty of tall guys who are not successful in life (no partner, sh*tty job, etc.), and I know plenty of short guys who are happy and successful. Would they still like to be taller? I assume most of them would. But this doesn’t prevent them from being happy.
Most bald guys would like to have hair, most women with small boobs would like to have bigger boobs, most people with an ugly face would like to have a more attractive face, etc. Does this mean they’re all miserable?
I believe that every person has the potential to be happy, and every person has the potential to be unhappy—no matter the circumstances. I think Body Builder here on this forum once explained it very well. You can either accept your fate and try to improve your current situation or resign and drown in self-pity. That friend I mentioned in my previous post (who had a motorcycle accident and is now a professional Paralympic athlete) was also very close to giving up but eventually managed to adopt a winning mentality and become a happy and successful person despite his handicap. If you can instill that kind of winning mentality in your child, they’ll be able to lead a happy and fulfilling life regardless of how tall or attractive they are.
But again, if you don’t want to have children, that’s totally fine. I just don’t agree with your reasoning (which is also fine).
So if you and your girlfriend don't want to have a baby then why have this surgery? Her mom wants tall grandchildren. Tell her you don't plan on having any children. End of story
Quote from: Arrogance on November 24, 2020, 11:27:36 PMSo if you and your girlfriend don't want to have a baby then why have this surgery? Her mom wants tall grandchildren. Tell her you don't plan on having any children. End of story
Then the end of story is me being compelled to break up with my gf and she being gonna be scolded.
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