With all due respect, you will bury yourself with debt for 4 or 5 cms that will not affect your height much since you are already 175.5 cm. It’s not like you are 160 and living in misery. I respect your wish bro and I know you have your reasons, not judging here. I just think you should give it more thoughts.
Would you, and under what circumstances, take debt to finance CLL ?
Quote from: aboali1022 on February 08, 2016, 12:55:42 PMWith all due respect, you will bury yourself with debt for 4 or 5 cms that will not affect your height much since you are already 175.5 cm. It’s not like you are 160 and living in misery. I respect your wish bro and I know you have your reasons, not judging here. I just think you should give it more thoughts.
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where you from mr starter?
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Im 169 and I question whether I want the surgery at all.... You're going to get into a ton of debt for a surgery you don't need, for an amount that won't be noticable. It's your life, do what you want.
I ve read a diary at old forum about a guy with starting height 174.5 who did 7.5 with Betz and he says that dramatically improved his life. Being 175.5 means that I am below average at all Western societies. Even with 5 cm I would be pretty much above average everywhere and if I complete my planned lengthening of 7.5 I would be 6 f tall. I think going from below average to visibly above average is worth it. I think it will be really noticable and will improve my life.
Quote from: aspirant185 on February 08, 2016, 04:35:24 PMI ve read a diary at old forum about a guy with starting height 174.5 who did 7.5 with Betz and he says that dramatically improved his life. Being 175.5 means that I am below average at all Western societies. Even with 5 cm I would be pretty much above average everywhere and if I complete my planned lengthening of 7.5 I would be 6 f tall. I think going from below average to visibly above average is worth it. I think it will be really noticable and will improve my life.
IN MY OPINION(You can ignore this if you want) Only people who are noticeably held back by height; midgets and really short guys should do LL. Wanting to go from average to tall is a luxury not a necessityish, and going into serious debt for that won't be "improving your life" by any means. Now if you're tall, rich as fk with idle time and want to be taller...go for it I guess. In your situation, I wouldn't. Or at least wait until the money is saved.
Doesn't Dr Betz charge $25,000 alone for a titanium nail replacement if the Betzbone breaks?
Quote from: aspirant185 on February 08, 2016, 04:35:24 PMI ve read a diary at old forum about a guy with starting height 174.5 who did 7.5 with Betz and he says that dramatically improved his life. Being 175.5 means that I am below average at all Western societies. Even with 5 cm I would be pretty much above average everywhere and if I complete my planned lengthening of 7.5 I would be 6 f tall. I think going from below average to visibly above average is worth it. I think it will be really noticable and will improve my life.
Improve them in which aspects?
From a statistical point of view, going from 174 to 182 is probably the most significant 8cm change us guys could make (for white Americans, in any case). That is, if you wanted the answer to: what any 8cm height change would give us the biggest impact in the perceptions of others? Let me explain. Let's assume that we want to impress the opposite sex (or for gays, the same sex). Either way, everything else in the attraction formula being equal, we are competing against other guys, hence the relativeness of the numbers and samples. What I'm saying is that there is no absolute number in which height is no longer a factor, such as 180 or 183, as these are place and time dependent.
So why 174 to 182? If you look at the height percentiles of white males in the USA, say at 30 years of age they're at a max (but it doesn't matter which age you look at), soassuming that as the playing field, for any 8cm band the range in which the isoheight lines bunch up more closely together is around the median or 50th percentile. It's logical too if you think of height distributions as following a normal curve; by definition the top of the curve is the flattest, so smaller changes in height would mean relatively bigger changes in percentiles.
So this means that moving from below average to above average would give you the largest change in percentiles. Taking the 174 to 182 cm example, that would mean moving from the 25th to 75th percentile. Any other height change would give you a lower change in percentile. Or less bang for the cm, if you want.
Now you may ask: does this really matter? If we assume that comparisons are made and that relative differences are important (ie "he's not tall but he's still taller than Tom Cruise"), then yes this matters. We can still debate if this is correct from the female point of view (I'll never know for sure), but there is research that shows that women compare heights, choosing the taller partner above other more favourable characteristics, and they also prefer a partner who is 8-10 cm taller that they are.
Here's the link for the height percentiles: http://halls.md/average-height-men-height-weight/
- Adonis
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on February 08, 2016, 05:06:07 PM Improve them in which aspects?
I guess he feels his life is improved the same way as a 165 cm guy going to 172 would think - more confidence, more attention from women etc.
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