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Posted on Feb 8, 2016, 7:04 pm
#41

Quote from: aspirant185 on February 08, 2016, 06:22:51 PMPeople in Europe don't generally fear about debt. There are tons of safety nets and stuff. Nobody will ever take your house if you fail to make the next payment. Nobody will even take your car. Unless its super extravagant. Its not like in the US where they put people in prison for failing to pay. Or its not like in Russia where, well they simply beat you up Would you, and under what circumstances, take debt to finance CLL ?

I agree with Adonis that going from 175 to 182 is the situation in which one can experience the greatest ''gains'' from LL. One actually goes from being below average to being tall. And if he would go from 165 to 172, that would mean, going from very short to below average. Which is by all means a whole new world for the person in question but for the ones around him, it might be that they do not even notice.


Hm I think that's pretty subjective. Considering all the possible complications and draw backs from LL it varies  greatly as to who benefits from what.Taking finances, proportions, doctor who you go to, and so forth.

Also don't say that there are plenty of safety nets in Europe. Considering how flimsy things are becoming there, nothing should ever be taken for granted.

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Posted on Feb 8, 2016, 7:08 pm
#42

Quote from: Adonis on February 08, 2016, 06:32:49 PMI agree with everything you say except your conclusion "Don't drive towards perfection because this drive will consume you". I want to be the best that I can be for as long as I live, and I want to be sane while doing it!  Would you, and under what circumstances, take debt to finance CLL ?


Careful wth that sentiment, perfec doesn't exist for anyone in this world. You won't be sane if you keep thinking like that because of possible unrealistic views on failure. So care; I know the sentiment. It felt great letting go.

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Posted on Feb 8, 2016, 7:21 pm
#43

Quote from: Alu on February 08, 2016, 07:08:50 PMCareful wth that sentiment, perfec doesn't exist for anyone in this world. You won't be sane if you keep thinking like that because of possible unrealistic views on failure. So care; I know the sentiment. It felt great letting go.

No worries, just a misunderstanding between you and me of what "perfection" means. To each his own!

If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. - Thoreau

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Posted on Feb 8, 2016, 7:56 pm
#44

Oh god... Not another debate on percentages and women **vomits in mouth**.

What's this below average crap you're spinning? You're 5"9. You're average height... Go into debt if you feel it's necessary.. At your height though, it's kinda sad.

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Posted on Feb 8, 2016, 8:02 pm
#45

When we are wondering whether it makes sense to take a debt to finance CLL in my case, granted that I agree for me CLL would be a luxury, have you guys asked yourselves, how often people actually take on debt to finance luxuries. Buy a car that is somewhat out our reasonable reach ? Or a place to live that is way too expensive ? Not to mention many people take on credit card debt to finance nice clothes, vacations, and gadgets. It happens more often than we think.]

So, to get 15 k euro to do CLL while still young , healthy and athletic might not be that bad of an idea. However, I would probably not do that if I couldnt rely on my parents to help me out in case of complications or other unexpected negative events.

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Posted on Feb 8, 2016, 8:14 pm
#46

Quote from: aspirant185 on February 08, 2016, 08:02:01 PMWhen we are wondering whether it makes sense to take a debt to finance CLL in my case, granted that I agree for me CLL would be a luxury, have you guys asked yourselves, how often people actually take on debt to finance luxuries. Buy a car that is somewhat out our reasonable reach ? Or a place to live that is way too expensive ? Not to mention many people take on credit card debt to finance nice clothes, vacations, and gadgets. It happens more often than we think.]

So, to get 15 k euro to do CLL while still young , healthy and athletic might not be that bad of an idea. However, I would probably not do that if I couldnt rely on my parents to help me out in case of complications or other unexpected negative events.


Yeah, people buy   they don't need all the time.... Is that your justification?

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Posted on Feb 8, 2016, 8:34 pm
#47

Take debt to finance CLL is crazy. If you get complications you will have to pay twice more at least and you won't be able to work to get that money. For example, one of Betz patients had to stay in Germany for more than one year and had to pay a lot for fixing her complications. Her total damage was around 100k.

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Posted on Feb 8, 2016, 9:44 pm
#48

Quote from: LLuser1 on February 08, 2016, 08:34:08 PMTake debt to finance CLL is crazy. If you get complications you will have to pay twice more at least and you won't be able to work to get that money. For example, one of Betz patients had to stay in Germany for more than one year and had to pay a lot for fixing her complications. Her total damage was around 100k.


You cannot just make decisions based on single cases and assume they might happen to you. Otherwise why leave the house since a car might kill you ?

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Posted on Feb 8, 2016, 10:23 pm
#49

Quote from: aspirant185 on February 08, 2016, 09:44:40 PMYou cannot just make decisions based on single cases and assume they might happen to you. Otherwise why leave the house since a car might kill you ?


That's why we wear seatbelts... It's called being responsible.

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Posted on Feb 8, 2016, 11:17 pm
#50

Stop spending so much money trying to impress other people. It's not worth it. Stop relying on other people's approval of you to be happy. Who gives a   about the people who find you "short". Seriously. I would question the  -ness of anyone who would call a 5'9" guy as someone short. I don't believe for a second that going from 5'9" to 6' would be that much of a difference. You list two improvements:

1) Confidence - You do realize that this is all in your head, right? If you really need confidence, you just have to think that you're taller than you really are. Also deriving your confidence from your height is pretty sad. That's because that's not really something to proud of. You should get your confidence from doing great things and getting achievements. When I ask about someone, I don't ask, "Oh, what's his height?" I ask, what does he do or what has he done? People don't care about your height as much as you do or as much as you think they do.

2) Attention from women - You're not getting attention from women at 5'9"? Really? Dude, at 5'9", pretty girls have been talking to me left and right. I admit that it wasn't as much when I was 5'5"-5'6". But you're complaining about being 5'9"? You're doing something else wrong in your life if you can't get quality women at 5'9". I mean, granted, I drive expensive cars. But being in debt is what drives women away, unless you plan on only doing one-night stands for the rest of your life. And as someone who's done that before, I can tell you that eventually it gets old and leaves you feeling empty. It's much more fulfilling to have a deep relationship with one great woman. And by the time you're in your late 20s, having money is way more impressive than being 3" taller. Only thing you'll probably be left out on here is girls who are taller than 5'9" will probably not date you as well as superficial girls who only want to date 6' tall guys. But who cares about that those minority of girls. Let's pretend that you are a white guy who wants to date asian girls. There are a lot of asian girls who only want to date asian guys. Would you get a surgery to become asian? NO! You find the asian girls who do like white guys. So don't don't don't do this surgery for "attention from women". If you want attention from women, get a puppy. Seriously. Get a cute puppy. My puppy gets me a lot of attention from women on the street.

It's not my place to tell you what to do. But as someone who has been through this surgery, I'd say with 100% confidence that this surgery is not worth going into debt for. Your legs will look disproportional. Certain sex positions will be very hard to do because you're not as flexible anymore. I honestly have trouble doing missionary position now. It hurts to have normal sex! It's pretty messed up. My sports skills now suck. My stamina is crap compared to before. I probably shortened my lifespan doing this surgery. I missed out on a lot of fun events and trips with friends because I was in a wheelchair for half a year. I mean, yes, being taller makes me feel better, but there's so many downsides to this surgery as well that puts me in a position to not fully recommend it. And if I added "debt" to one of the downsides, I'd say that it's not worth it anymore. If the pains in my legs don't go away, then I'd also say it's not worth it anymore even if the surgery was free. Keep in mind that I got my surgery around the age that you plan getting it. So don't think these things that happened to me won't happen to you. Even if there's only a small chance of it happening, it's not worth it to gamble your legs like that.

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