5'7 and more who want ll do you know the reason of your complex?

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Quote from: extremis on February 10, 2018, 04:16:55 AMI don't actually know if you're addressing me with this post, but given the fact you mention "disappointment" with therapy, I'm going to guess you are.

I don't think anyone would argue that a person who becomes a recluse/shut-in or develops avoidant habits as a result of some physical trait they're unhappy about is mentally healthy. Whether or not this translates into a "body dysmorphia" diagnosis, however, is a different matter altogether.

Unless you're a psychiatrist, you don't have the right or academic acumen to make such an assertion, and you aren't, because if you were, you'd know that online diagnosing is not only unprofessional but inaccurate.
You've been attempting to make definitive assertions re: BDD the entire thread bud. At the end of the day we're both just making extrapolations based on the diagnostic criteria. If you're going to claim I'm not qualified, you're right-- but then neither are you.  How about applying the standards you've just set for me to yourself too.

QuoteBecause the patient is an sentient, self aware individual and not a cog in a machine. The goal of """therapy""" of any kind should be to remove the source of suffering so that the patient's quality of life improves, not put a band aid over it so they can cope with it just well enough for them to be "useful and productive".
More idealism. "should, should, should". At some point you have to look at the world and accept it for what it really is. Your psychiatry is subsidized by society because we hope that unstable people like yourself will eventually become less of a danger to the rest of us, & hopefully one day contribute like most people do. Ending suffering is a very positive side effect, but if that's all we got out of the deal the system would not work. Only your mother loves you unconditionally, & would throw money at you for your sake alone, especially for something like height dysphoria. In fact if your treatment wasn't subsidized, I bet she's the one who paid for it

QuoteLMAO

Just from reading this I can tell exactly what kind of person you are. You're wrong. Neither I nor anyone else "owes a debt" to society.

"Society" doesn't get up every morning to work a 10-hour shift (2 hours unpaid prep/transit time, plus an 8-hour shift). "Society" doesn't pay anyone's mortgage, health insurance, food, utilities, luxuries, and so on. "Society" doesn't suffer the effects of discrimination, whether it be based on height, race, looks, or what-have-you.

Individuals do all those things. I don't "owe" society anything. No one does. I've never heard such a ridiculous, asinine, absurd, arrogant, moralizing piece of idiotic rhetoric in all my life. It sounds like the kind of thing some uppity baby boomer know-it-all condescendingly says to young people, or maybe something a communist would say.

In fact, there's a much stronger argument in favor of the idea that "society" owes people something, because "society" is metaphysically dependent on individuals to exist. Individuals can exist without society. The converse does not hold true.

Society's probably too broad, but if your conscience doesn't tell you that you owe your family some kind of debt for keeping you alive & putting up with all your BS as a kid--  you actually are still a little kid. No wonder you're obsessed with how you look despite supposedly being an adult.

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I think you generally make reasonable posts in other threads, Thatdude, but I think you're off the mark here. I'm guessing it's the effect of being a good height (175cm+) and having lived a mostly normal life with normal parents? Excuse me for assuming if I'm wrong.

QuoteYour psychiatry is subsidized by society because we hope that unstable people like yourself will eventually become less of a danger to the rest of us, & hopefully one day contribute like most people do. Ending suffering is a very positive side effect, but if that's all we got out of the deal the system would not work.
What subsidized psychiatry? Most of us outside of Europe had to struggle a lot of years trying to find help and then had to pay out of our pocket for it. Do you mean how government funds research for science?

QuoteSociety's probably too broad, but if your conscience doesn't tell you that you owe your family some kind of debt for keeping you alive & putting up with all your BS as a kid--  you actually are still a little kid. No wonder you're obsessed with how you look despite supposedly being an adult.
Parents owe a responsibility to their kids for making a conscious decision to put them in this world. Again, I'm guessing you were lucky enough to have had a mostly normal life with caring parents. That's great. That being the case, you'll definitely feel indebted and grateful to them. That's not how anyone who grew up in an abusive household feels.

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5´7 is still short , so you are going to have drawbacks in society .  your height will be a negative aspect of your phisyc .
For most girls 5´7 is not enought  , most girls want average / tall mans , it doesnt matter if the girl is 160cm tall. And the hottest girls are above 5´7 .

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Quote from: KrP1 on February 10, 2018, 04:22:26 PM5´7 is still short , so you are going to have drawbacks in society .  your height will be a negative aspect of your phisyc .
For most girls 5´7 is not enought  , most girls want average / tall mans , it doesnt matter if the girl is 160cm tall. And the hottest girls are above 5´7 .



No, no and no.
5-7 (170 to 172,5) is rather about average or a little under (5-9 for the USA), even taller than average in many countries (most asian countries, and maybe even some south american countries)

and I think that you care more about height (girls opinion) than girls
but I know also that in some countries like the USA or even China it can become an obsession for some girls. They want a tall guy, doesn't matter if he is beautiful or average looking, thin or muscular, etc they just want a tall guy

it's probably for that reason that female lie about their heights. Especially on dating website. I've registered to look at it : about 50 % of girls were taller than 5-7 and maybe 20-30 % taller than 5-9 in a country where female average is 5-4. And I saw the same in senior websites. And especially into african girls, they were in average 5-9 on their profile.

But I laughed, it's not serious. Like sportsmen height/weight listening, nothing serious.

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You can live a pretty normal life at 5'7. Not an ideal one, but you can at least get a few dates, get married, get treated normally in a workplace, etc... I know a few 5'7 guys who have no problem doing any of these things. I wouldn't say that really holds true for guys 5'5 and under. I don't know a single guy 5'5 or under who's had a girlfriend or gotten laid here in college, or who gets treated normally at say parties and other social events. Every guy I know shorter than 5'5-5'6 is clearly depressed, very little social life, small presence on social media, play video games all day or lift weights all day etc... Still at 5'7 you're pretty short and girls will still neg you for it, and some other "men" may respect you less. I would say that ends at probably 5'9, 5'10 ideally. But you can still participate in general life at 5'7, you're not completely left out from some things.

Now that isn't to say that at 5'7 you have a nice stack of bargaining chips either. Obviously even if you get into a relationship or manage to secure a managerial position at work, you're going to have a much tougher time maintaining than some moron who's 6'2. But you're not completely disqualified from doing these things, you are still a reasonable size for an adult male, you are at least the same height as the average 5'4 woman in 3 inch heels.

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At 5.7 you can live normally.
An ugly (not like a monster of course!) woman can live normal too.
But in both cases these people won't have much chances on dating.
So yes they can live normal, but not as happy and ok with themselves like better looking or taller people.

Men less than 5.6 can not even live normal as their heights will be a permanent joke in many instances (like work etc) which won't let them continue their lives normally.

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Guess I need to tell my 5'6'' uncle that he can't "live normal", haha. I mean he owns his own house, lives with his girlfriend being together for....15 years?...constantly going skiing and visiting foreign countries.....DJing and partying in his free time. Having quite a lot of friends and being well-respected at work. I need to go and tell him that he's supposed to suffer and be a permanent joke at work! 

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at 5-7 you can date, no problem with that.

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Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on February 10, 2018, 07:36:22 PMGuess I need to tell my 5'6'' uncle that he can't "live normal", haha. I mean he owns his own house, lives with his girlfriend being together for....15 years?...constantly going skiing and visiting foreign countries.....DJing and partying in his free time. Having quite a lot of friends and being well-respected at work. I need to go and tell him that he's supposed to suffer and be a permanent joke at work! 
If your uncle had more than one gorgeous looking gf each year you could say that what I wrote is false.
Having 1 woman 15 years and a house does not mean that you have a good sexual life nor that you are generally successful.

So stay on point to what I said or just say bs about friends, uncles and all these that have no significance.

Knik, and a fat woman can date. But with much less successes than a good looking one and with of course worse quality on partner's looks on general.
5.7 is not enough for men in west.
Anyone less than 5.10 will face some problems on dating and the less you are thw more problems you face. At 5.7 you are not doomed but still many women will reject you for your height. At even less than that you are doomed, period.