5'7 and more who want ll do you know the reason of your complex?

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Finally I understand
At 5-9 you won't have any problems with your height with any girl except the 5-9+ minority. But at the same time you won't have the "attractiveness" that tall guys have (6ft+). And modelling standardized all of that, since most models are between 6ft and 6-4.
But 5-7+ girls is still a minority, everywhere. Even if I agree it can be a problem to date tall girls to be under 5-9

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Another useless topic that has been answered 1000+ times in forum,however I will answer as a 5.10' ft(in the morning)
Guys under 5.7 are doing this for obvious reasons,reaching an average height will allow them to reduce the social drawbacks (and we know all of them,it is not necessary to make a list) due of being undersized
Guys over 5.9 are doing this in order to achieve the social benefits:when you're 5.11 your height stop being a drawback and you can exprime all of your potential(social skills,carisma,nice body and face ecc).At 6ft+ your height instead becomes a bonus and if you are already good in other aspects this improvement can be your heaven
The first category is the one that needs more LL but the second one also has its own reasons
LL doesn't make you a god if before you were an incel,it does instead if you were a prince
I hope the metaphor explains the concept

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Quote from: Knik on February 13, 2018, 07:37:55 PMFinally I understand
At 5-9 you won't have any problems with your height with any girl except the 5-9+ minority. But at the same time you won't have the "attractiveness" that tall guys have (6ft+). And modelling standardized all of that, since most models are between 6ft and 6-4.
But 5-7+ girls is still a minority, everywhere. Even if I agree it can be a problem to date tall girls to be under 5-9

I'm not sure, I do think there is some "attractiveness" that tall guys have, but most of that is from having broad shoulders and long torsos, less so than their leg length really. It’s like girls under 5’5 having usually wider hips, nicer butts than taller girls. They are usually more attractive because of their hip to waist ratio rather than their heights.

It is also overrated though. I know a guy who is 6'3, broad-shouldered in Brazil which is like 6'5 in America comparatively and guess what, he only gets to have sxx with ugly fat girls lol. He tries to hit on pretty or average girls all the time and he has no luck at all. He's not bad looking either, just average. I told him to come to America and he will have much more luck with the height obsessed broads here. So it really depends on the culture you're in as well. It seems like US/Sweden/Netherlands seem to value height much more than other places. Socially moreso than sxxually I would say.

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Quote from: The Dreamer on February 13, 2018, 07:40:46 PMAnother useless topic that has been answered 1000+ times in forum,however I will answer as a 5.10' ft(in the morning)
Guys under 5.7 are doing this for obvious reasons,reaching an average height will allow them to reduce the social drawbacks (and we know all of them,it is not necessary to make a list) due of being undersized
Guys over 5.9 are doing this in order to achieve the social benefits:when you're 5.11 your height stop being a drawback and you can exprime all of your potential(social skills,carisma,nice body and face ecc).At 6ft+ your height instead becomes a bonus and if you are already good in other aspects this improvement can be your heaven
The first category is the one that needs more LL but the second one also has its own reasons
LL doesn't make you a god if before you were an incel,it does instead if you were a prince
I hope the metaphor explains the concept

You will have no life benefits going from 5'10 to 6'1 honestly. Sorry to burst the bubble. Your life will change 5% at maximum. That is maybe one less rejection of a drunk whore, not even a $5,000 promotion or CEO position. I also don’t think a majority of females would experience quantifiable life benefits from LL, no offense, I just think that’s the way it is, unless maybe if the girl is under 5ft. If you want to do it for your own peace of mind and aesthetics go ahead, but I don’t think it will bring any real world benefits of any form.

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Quote from: CaptainAmerica on February 13, 2018, 07:43:59 PMYou will have no life benefits going from 5'10 to 6'1 honestly. Sorry to burst the bubble. Your life will change 5% at maximum. That is maybe one less rejection of a drunk whore, not even a $5,000 promotion or CEO position. I also don’t think a majority of females would experience quantifiable life benefits from LL, no offense, I just think that’s the way it is, unless maybe if the girl is under 5ft.

wrong there is a big difference, sorry to burst your bubble. im sorry, i know many short guys wont like hearing this but there is a huge diff between 6feet and 510. when women want a 6ft guy they fking want a 6ft guy. its retarded to think that women or other people cant or wont notice the difference. i believe that many guys under 5,6 think that being 510 would be the same as being 6ft, wrong!! what people dont understand here is that most women wont find attractive guys under 5,9 , some under 6ft. which is terrible news if your very short. (you can look at those twitter profiles where girls would be making fun of short guys saying stuff like: ''short guys are the sons of satan'' and   like that. well they arent joking when they say that, you can take it as an example to understand how women feel about this. most women detest short guys. again sorry to say that. i have had gf from 16 to 22 and now im 26 and ive been without for 4yrs.. may girls/women wont consider dating guys under 510, height is important, its the most important aspect of a man, after the genitals. height, believe it or not is what makes you a man in the eyes of a woman.

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Quote from: 6cm on February 13, 2018, 08:07:57 PMwrong there is a big difference, sorry to burst your bubble. im sorry, i know many short guys wont like hearing this but there is a huge diff between 6feet and 510. when women want a 6ft guy they fking want a 6ft guy. its retarded to think that women or other people cant or wont notice the difference. i believe that many guys under 5,6 think that being 510 would be the same as being 6ft, wrong!! what people dont understand here is that most women wont find attractive guys under 5,9 , some under 6ft. which is terrible news if your very short. (you can look at those twitter profiles where girls would be making fun of short guys saying stuff like: ''short guys are the sons of satan'' and   like that. well they arent joking when they say that, you can take it as an example to understand how women feel about this. most women detest short guys. again sorry to say that. i have had gf from 16 to 22 and now im 26 and ive been without for 4yrs.. may girls/women wont consider dating guys under 510, height is important, its the most important aspect of a man, after the genitals. height, believe it or not is what makes you a man in the eyes of a woman.

Well you are probably just ugly, sorry to burst your bubble. I’ve made out with and had girls take interest in me approach ask for my snap number etc here in uni at 5’6 and I’m not even ripped or anything, just slightly above average looking. Maybe 7/10.

If I am able to do that at 5’6 and I have 6ft tall friend guys who get straight up blown off when talking to women how is height everything? Lol. I mean they get treated like literal garbage and have never been approached before.

Especially the difference between 5’10 and 6ft... my god have you ever gone outside? I know someone who is 5’10 just wears Clark’s all the time and says he is 6 and EVERYONE believes him, he has no problems with women either, they believe him fully and he is 6/10 face and does pretty well.

Height is far from the most important part of a man. It is all about face. If I could choose between being an average faced 6’2 guy or Dave Franco I would choose Dave a billion times over. Girls hang his face up and masturbate to it. No one does that for the average 6’2 guy. Even if he wasn’t famous I would still choose to be him.

You are just linking other failures in your life to your height honestly, but it’s not responsible. There are lots of 6ft+ guys who are miserable, have no luck with women, are losers, it is not an easy ticket to life, not even close.

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i think many short guys here try to cope with their height defect by 'sugar-coating' it. its a fking big deal being underaverage, the more distant from average you are the worst it is. also being average 510 sucks you will get rejected, 6ft is the perfect height. 511 you can compensate with personality and $.
think about it like this being underaverage is like having a small penis. many girls dont like short guys (even 5,8 like me) because we look like children to them.
this is why were here. to fix this huge disaster of a problem with fking surgery.


oh and a part from this, are we really sure ''apotheosis'' ever did LL?? could he just be a dr sarin shill? o saw a video of him and he looks like a natural tall guy, no scars on his arms and legs. his arms are also big, which is wierd since he should have lengthened them.

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Quote from: 6cm on February 13, 2018, 08:16:14 PMi think many short guys here try to cope with their height defect by 'sugar-coating' it. its a fking big deal being underaverage, the more distant from average you are the worst it is. also being average 510 sucks you will get rejected, 6ft is the perfect height. 511 you can compensate with personality and $.
think about it like this being underaverage is like having a small penis. many girls dont like short guys (even 5,8 like me) because we look like children to them.
this is why were here. to fix this huge disaster of a problem with fking surgery.


oh and a part from this, are we really sure ''apotheosis'' ever did LL?? could he just be a dr sarin shill? o saw a video of him and he looks like a natural tall guy, no scars on his arms and legs. his arms are also big, which is wierd since he should have lengthened them.

I’m not trying to cope. I realize my height is a big disadvantage for some women, but socis not having a 10/10 face or six pack or being wealthy. I don’t think height will magically turn me into a Don Juan either. I think my life will change at most 15% going from 5’6 to 5’8. I’m not even considering doing the second segment anymore because I’ve seen the world for what it is now. You are legitimately delusional and height obsessed, it is a misplaced feeling of inferiority honestly.

And yes Apo did LL and other plastic surgery from 5’7 to 6’1 and look what that got him. Did you see the “babes” in his video and his so called model girlfriend? All ugly girls, lmao.

It isn’t even more comical that you think 2 inches of 5’10 to 6ft would make any difference at all... my god, have you ever seen a true 5’10 next to 6ft? Now imagine from a girls perspective who has to look up.... almost no difference. If you really believe what women say I have bad news for you.

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Quote from: CaptainAmerica on February 13, 2018, 08:11:38 PMWell you are probably just ugly, sorry to burst your bubble.

wrong i dont know if bait or just retarded. no brah im not ugly, ive had hot gf since i was 16 probably hotter than the ones you ever had, some of my ex gfs are instagram models now, so dont fking tell me this  , my exes date tall good looking guys. guys with my face but 6 ft tall. there is nothing i can do about it.
i came here first when i was 23 cus i was out of the country and was hearing a girl i used to date when i was 17 and shes a model now (5,7 ''petite'' green eyes brunette, beautiful face) , we were the perfect match had so much in common, i loved her, when i came back to EU to see her cus we had reconnected through fb when i was gone, she thought from m pics i was taller, she liked my fking face as i am good looking, but when i came back to see her we dated and she didint want to see me anymore, she was sort of shocked when she saw me. i guess she thought i was taller, she had forgotten my height as we hadnt seen in 2 yrs( she does a lot of drugs btw, ).
anyway this made me realize i had a fking problem, 5,8 is not good for many girls/women, you can find proof in the internet.
also this is written like   as i am very tired havent sleept last night.

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Quote from: 6cm on February 13, 2018, 08:25:57 PMQuote from: CaptainAmerica on February 13, 2018, 08:11:38 PMWell you are probably just ugly, sorry to burst your bubble.

wrong i dont know if bait or just retarded. no brah im not ugly, ive had hot gf since i was 16 probably hotter than the ones you ever had, some of my ex gfs are instagram models now, so dont fking tell me this  , my exes date tall good looking guys. guys with my face but 6 ft tall. there is nothing i can do about it.
i came here first when i was 23 cus i was out of the country and was hearing a girl i used to date when i was 17 and shes a model now (5,7 ''petite'' green eyes brunette, beautiful face) , we were the perfect match had so much in common, i loved her, when i came back to EU to see her cus we had reconnected through fb when i was gone, she thought from m pics i was taller, she liked my fking face as i am good looking, but when i came back to see her we dated and she didint want to see me anymore, she was sort of shocked when she saw me. i guess she thought i was taller, she had forgotten my height as we hadnt seen in 2 yrs( she does a lot of drugs btw, ).
anyway this made me realize i had a fking problem, 5,8 is not good for many girls/women, you can find proof in the internet.
also this is written like   as i am very tired havent sleept last night.

Well yeah mate obviously a 5’7 girl is not going to like a 5’8 guy. But who goes after 5’7 girls anyway? Here the average for girls is 5’4 and the taller they get the less hot usually.