5'7 and more who want ll do you know the reason of your complex?

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Reason is NPD and other personality disorders.

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Quote from: Body Builder on February 10, 2018, 08:19:57 PMIf your uncle had more than one gorgeous looking gf each year you could say that what I wrote is false.
Having 1 woman 15 years and a house does not mean that you have a good sxxual life nor that you are generally successful.

So stay on point to what I said or just say bs about friends, uncles and all these that have no significance.

Knik, and a fat woman can date. But with much less successes than a good looking one and with of course worse quality on partner's looks on general.
5.7 is not enough for men in west.
Anyone less than 5.10 will face some problems on dating and the less you are thw more problems you face. At 5.7 you are not doomed but still many women will reject you for your height. At even less than that you are doomed, period.


except if you want to date a tall girl (and still), no it won't be a problem to be 5-8 or 5-9

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Quote from: Body Builder on February 10, 2018, 08:19:57 PMIf your uncle had more than one gorgeous looking gf each year you could say that what I wrote is false.
Having 1 woman 15 years and a house does not mean that you have a good sxxual life nor that you are generally successful.
That's not what you said.

You said a man at that height cannot "live normal" and will be a constant joke by others at his workplace and anywhere else. That is pure BS.

And of course having several short-term relationships instead of one long-term one doesn't guarantee a person is sexually satisfied either.

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Quote from: Body Builder on February 10, 2018, 08:19:57 PMIf your uncle had more than one gorgeous looking gf each year you could say that what I wrote is false.
Having 1 woman 15 years and a house does not mean that you have a good sxxual life nor that you are generally successful.
That's not what you said.

You said a man at that height cannot "live normal" and will be a constant joke by others at his workplace and anywhere else. That is pure BS.

And of course having several short-term relationships instead of one long-term one doesn't guarantee a person is sexually satisfied either.

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Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on February 10, 2018, 10:43:44 PMThat's not what you said.

You said a man at that height cannot "live normal" and will be a constant joke by others at his workplace and anywhere else. That is pure BS.

And of course having several short-term relationships instead of one long-term one doesn't guarantee a person is sxxually satisfied either.
But it guarantees that you are attractive.
And I said that if you are less than 5.6 (or 5.5 max) you cant live normally.
I doubt if your uncle had a so "happy" life if he was 5.3 for instance.

Knik, many women nowadays are more than 5.7 so at that heights you can't have a large amount of women only because you are not even significantly taller than them.
But even shorter girls like men of average height and more like fat men want fit women. What is attractive is the same for short and tall women too so the more a man is far from average (in height or anything else) the more unattractive he is, to all women.

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Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on February 10, 2018, 10:43:44 PMThat's not what you said.

You said a man at that height cannot "live normal" and will be a constant joke by others at his workplace and anywhere else. That is pure BS.

And of course having several short-term relationships instead of one long-term one doesn't guarantee a person is sxxually satisfied either.
But it guarantees that you are attractive.
And I said that if you are less than 5.6 (or 5.5 max) you cant live normally.
I doubt if your uncle had a so "happy" life if he was 5.3 for instance.

Knik, many women nowadays are more than 5.7 so at that heights you can't have a large amount of women only because you are not even significantly taller than them.
But even shorter girls like men of average height and more like fat men want fit women. What is attractive is the same for short and tall women too so the more a man is far from average (in height or anything else) the more unattractive he is, to all women.

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Quote from: Thatdude950 on February 10, 2018, 12:52:18 PMYou've been attempting to make definitive assertions re: BDD the entire thread bud. At the end of the day we're both just making extrapolations based on the diagnostic criteria. If you're going to claim I'm not qualified, you're right-- but then neither are you.  How about applying the standards you've just set for me to yourself too.
The only "assertions" I've made are pointing out the criteria that psychiatrists use to diagnose "BDD" in patients. I'm not making value judgments or giving ultimatums, unlike you:

Quote Even leaving that out, if you are obsessed with your physical appearance to the point that it prevents you from living a normal life and contributing to society, you're sick.
You're not a psychiatrist, and aren't qualified to make this assertion. Neither do you have the right to be judge and jury as to what constitutes being "sick" or not. Hypocrite.

QuoteMore idealism. "should, should, should". At some point you have to look at the world and accept it for what it really is. Your psychiatry is subsidized by society
My "psychiatry" wasn't "subsidized by society", you presumptuous imbecile. When I did visit a therapist, I paid out of pocket. "Society" didn't have anything to do with it.

Quotebecause we hope that unstable people like yourself will eventually become less of a danger to the rest of us
LMFAO at trying to portray me as a dangerous villain and "society" (i.e. you) as innocent victims. You're trash.

Quote, & hopefully one day contribute like most people do.
I would rather die than contribute anything to scum like you.

QuoteEnding suffering is a very positive side effect, but if that's all we got out of the deal the system would not work.
Right, that deal doesn't work!

But when society discriminates and oppresses short people to the point that they end up in psychiatrist's offices, or on forums like this one, or even committing suicide, and then get shamed for demanding solutions, they're expected to "suck it up" and "contribute to society" - the same society that caused their problem in the first place, and that deal totally works, right?

If society causes people to develop height dysphoria by way of its bigoted and discriminatory standards, then it should pay the price to the people it victimizes. Oppressors do not have the right to demand "something out of the deal".

QuoteSociety's probably too broad, but if your conscience doesn't tell you that you owe your family some kind of debt for keeping you alive & putting up with all your BS as a kid--  you actually are still a little kid. No wonder you're obsessed with how you look despite supposedly being an adult.

LOL. You moralizing piece of garbage. Who do you think you are to lecture other people on "conscience" when you callously demand that the oppressed pay their oppressors for the privilege of being oppressed by them?

I don't "owe" anyone anything. This post by myloginacct perfectly sums up my thoughts on this matter:

QuoteParents owe a responsibility to their kids for making a conscious decision to put them in this world. Again, I'm guessing you were lucky enough to have had a mostly normal life with caring parents. That's great. That being the case, you'll definitely feel indebted and grateful to them. That's not how anyone who grew up in an abusive household feels.
I didn't ask to be born. Nobody put a gun to my parent's heads and made them have a child. If my "family" didn't want to spend the money to raise or take care of me, they could easily have given me up for adoption, kicked me out of the house, or straight up aborted me.

Saying I "owe my family some kind of debt" for raising me is like saying I should pay a restaurant if one its servers forcibly drags me in, sits me at a table and brings me five thousand dollars' worth of food I didn't order.

The way you talk leads me to believe you view having children as an business venture, as if you're expecting a "return on investment" for going through the trouble of raising a child. It's disgusting. My initial analysis of you was spot on. You're a parasite.

You baby boomers can't die fast enough. Virtue signalling scum.

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5,8 here
i think extremis is one of the few that makes sense here.
unfortunatley many people here tend to think that you dont have to be average height(510, 511) or tall to live a normal life. i dont understand ''short'' guys here that think getting to 5,7 5,8 will cure their height neurosis, sure it will be  a huge improvement but it wont be comparable to a 510 511, not to talk about 6 feet.
i hope that mankind will be able to help us grow taller naturally in the next 100yrs or learn how to manipulate dna to eradicate the problem from the start.

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Quote from: 6cm on February 13, 2018, 07:00:39 PM5,8 here
i think extremis is one of the few that makes sense here.
unfortunatley many people here tend to think that you dont have to be average height(510, 511) or tall to live a normal life. i dont understand ''short'' guys here that think getting to 5,7 5,8 will cure their height neurosis, sure it will be  a huge improvement but it wont be comparable to a 510 511, not to talk about 6 feet.
i hope that mankind will be able to help us grow taller naturally in the next 100yrs or learn how to manipulate dna to eradicate the problem from the start.

This is next level brain gymnastics. 5'5 to 5'8 would be a much, much bigger difference than 5'8 to 5'11, much less 5'8 to 5'10. Go put on Timberland boots and go out a few nights and see how much difference 5'8 to 5'10 makes. Also, if you're doing this for women how good looking you are is a big factor as well. I know plenty of 5'8 guys who have no problem hooking up with hot girls, and I also know plenty of 6ft tall ugly guys who have never had a girl in their life. I think this place, and males in general, overestimate how important height is to women once you're like 3 inches taller than her. I would say after 5'9 your face and looks start mattering much much more than height unless you're like a 6'3 giant and you're going after that 10% of women who are height fetishists (just like you can be a steroid meathead and go after the 10% of women who are muscle fetishists).

But if you're 5'8 and getting rejected by like 5'3, 5'4 girls, I don't think you being 2 inches taller will really make a difference because she wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between someone of your height and someone 2 inches taller honestly, the aura is nearly the same. When standing next to my 5'7 friend I don't even feel that different, I look in the mirror and he doesn't look that much taller than me.

For example on Instagram body builder pages of guys who are like 5'10, 6'1 I see they will sometimes take photos with like 6'4, 6'5 giants and all the males are always commenting "Lol, he is so much bigger than you haha manlet!!!" or comments like this... Like lol, do you think the 6'1 guy truly cares? It is honestly a really retarded male point of view.

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Quote from: 6cm on February 13, 2018, 07:00:39 PM5,8 here
i think extremis is one of the few that makes sense here.
unfortunatley many people here tend to think that you dont have to be average height(510, 511) or tall to live a normal life. i dont understand ''short'' guys here that think getting to 5,7 5,8 will cure their height neurosis, sure it will be  a huge improvement but it wont be comparable to a 510 511, not to talk about 6 feet.
i hope that mankind will be able to help us grow taller naturally in the next 100yrs or learn how to manipulate dna to eradicate the problem from the start.

In the end, everyone has their own opinions about this matter.

For me, it's balancing needs vs wants that guide how I view it.

And actually, a lot gets lost in discourse and context here. Like when Jexus and Body Builder were arguing. Both from different countries, with different cultures and average heights. Body Builder was 10cm shorter than his country's average. Jexus was around 4cm shorter. Their experiences can both contradict one another while both being true.