Okay once again, ones question on the reliability of the Betz Nail can be answered by asking Betz himself. Now how difficult can this be?
Your questions could be something like what I have below:
1) Exacty what is the total number of Betz Nail patients have you had in your entire career?
2) Okay, now what is the precise total who had a nail brake on them at some point? And it doesn't matter
right now how the nail broke or who is at fault, I just want the information on the precise number of
patients who had a nail that broke at some point while still in their leg.
Once you have the answers on the total number of broken nails during Betz career you can then go on to ask him further & more specific questions of course.
For Christ sake, nows not the time to be shy here. Your hard earned money and the health of your legs is on the line.
Dr Augustin Betz (Neunkirchen, Germany) The Betz Institute
Okay once again, ones question on the reliability of the HYDROLIC Nail can be answered by asking DR SARIN himself. Now how difficult can this be?
Your questions could be something like what I have below:
1) Exacty what is the total number of HYDROLIC Nail patients have you had in your entire career?
2) Okay, now what is the precise total who had a nail brake on them at some point? And it doesn't matter
right now how the nail broke or who is at fault, I just want the information on the precise number of
patients who had a nail that broke at some point while still in their leg.
SARINS ANSWER IS 100% OF PATIENTS ALL RECOVERED 100% TO HEALTHY. FEW HAD COMPLICATIONS THAT WERE FIXED AND ALL PEOPLES ARE HAPPY NOW FOREVER......................
WHEN OUR STATS DONT MATCH DR SARINS STATMENT WE CALL BULL ON WHAT THE DOCTOR TELLS US.
doctors lie.
I'm sure doctors do lie all the time and you should take what they say with a grain of salt. But I'm sure records are on file somewhere whenever there is a scheduled surgery to remove a broken nail. That likely doesn't apply to India however. Of course there will be patients with broken nails who flee and never return to Germany, something to keep in mind.
One strange thing that doesnt make sense is we never hear a peep from the people who's nails have broke on them. For Christ sake we have people selling their homes and everything they own to have this surgery. Help your fellow man here.
Quote from: GROWtalORdieTRYING1 on September 22, 2014, 03:49:38 PMOkay once again, ones question on the reliability of the HYDROLIC Nail can be answered by asking DR SARIN himself. Now how difficult can this be?
Your questions could be something like what I have below:
1) Exacty what is the total number of HYDROLIC Nail patients have you had in your entire career?
2) Okay, now what is the precise total who had a nail brake on them at some point? And it doesn't matter
right now how the nail broke or who is at fault, I just want the information on the precise number of
patients who had a nail that broke at some point while still in their leg.
SARINS ANSWER IS 100% OF PATIENTS ALL RECOVERED 100% TO HEALTHY. FEW HAD COMPLICATIONS THAT WERE FIXED AND ALL PEOPLES ARE HAPPY NOW FOREVER......................
WHEN OUR STATS DONT MATCH DR SARINS STATMENT WE CALL BULL s**t ON WHAT THE DOCTOR TELLS US.
doctors lie.
I'm sure doctors do lie all the time and you should take what they say with a grain of salt. But I'm sure records are on file somewhere whenever there is a scheduled surgery to remove a broken nail. That likely doesn't apply to India however. Of course there will be patients with broken nails who flee and never return to Germany, something to keep in mind.
One strange thing that doesn't make sense is we never hear a peep from the people who's nails have broke on them. For Christ sake we have people selling their homes and everything they own to have this surgery. Help your fellow man here.
And What doctor do you suggest?
I have read all diaries on old forum of betz. IT seems all are doing well. I Still dont get why here you warn for going with betz.
hey coppkillr.
I don't know who that question is aimed at.
but if its for me, I don't really care who a person chooses. so I don't recommend anyone. im just making a statistical analysis for a nail. im not even making an assessment on the doctor, just his nail.
so again, I don't really recommend or care who someone chooses.
Ok. But also i cant See the problems of the betznail. I cannot find ppl complaining.
well I see many people complaining. not sure why you cant.
The discussion should focus more on the information that is available. We can easily estimate the number of CLL patients of doctor Betz:
Under the "doctors that i do recommend for leg lengthening" section are answers from Dr.Betz on several questions:
Quote from: SysopHere are the responses from Dr. Betz, updating his information with 2012 pricing and details.
1. How many patients have been treated by you for Cosmetic Leg Lengthening?
Over 450 cosmetic limb lengthening procedures with internal devices.
In 2012 the number was 450. How many are there now, 2 years later?
Quote from: Sysop15. Is there any other information that you would like to have included?
Prof. Dr. Betz is the most experienced limb lengthening surgeon in the world with internal devices and is a pioneer that has invented the most technological advanced telescopic nail. Cosmetic limb lengthening is a routine procedure for Prof. Dr. Betz in which he performs approx. 5-7 procedures per month.
Since there are 5-7 new patients per month the current number of cosmetic patients is around 600. We can also see how big this business for Dr. Betz is. 600 patients means roughly 30 million Euro turnover which is around 40 million US$. Since he is the manufacturer of the nail himself his profit margin is very high. Anyway, let's continue our investigation.
Since we know the total number of patients we can easily make an error calculation on our statistic above http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=132.msg16324#msg16324
with the hypergeometric distribution.
The result is:
The complication rate for all of doctor Betz patients is
higher than 30% with a probability of 99.7%
higher than 40% with a probability of 89%
This clearly settles the dispute about whether or not the sample is big enough. Our gettingtaller troll has lost the battle.
What does Dr. Betz say about his complication rate?
Quote from: Sysop8. In what percentage of cases do your patients experience complications?
a. Major complications - 0% (Fatty embolism, paralysis, nerve damage, deformity, loss of function)
b. Broken screw - 1-2 % (Results from a fall or excess pressure). This can be changed in an outpatient procedure.
c. Bent nail - 1-2 % (Results from an accident and can be removed and replaced with a titanium nail).
d. Infection - 0%
e. Non union - 1-2 % (only in medical indications in lower leg)
This is probably also what he is telling prospective patients during his consultation. Please notice that there is no mentioning of 'maximum weight bearing'.So we have proof that Dr.Betz is a liar.
I have found some more interesting facts which i will write about later. Stay tuned.
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