Yeah, they even make up stories of fake patients who have lengthened much, even 20 cm, and that they're alright. This is insane! They've no ethics.
Quoteso after defaming monegal hes here to defame betz and franz good job
everyone don't pay attention to itsmylife. he is training to become a doctor so he is subjectively biased. he does not care who is right or wrong he is defending doctors in general.
to do this he is branding 3 doctors names together vs a forum member.
the point of this statement from itsmylife is to attack character and demonize in order to strengthen the doctors position(doctors in general not a particular doctor), the actual argument presented is that of doctor authority vs a "demonized" person with no supposed character.
of course this is all rubbish. its just its my life attempt to give credibility back to doctors in general. because he is becoming a doctor
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he is not impartial and so in my opinion he hold little weight In his opinion on this matter.
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now if he was actually being sincere he would have addressed actual content regarding bets instead of this underhanded tactic.
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so lets address doctor bets since itsmylife brought up that we could somehow try to badmouth his works with slander.
no one needs to say anything that isn't supported.
Quotefrom MASTERHY
Hey guys I'm back. I decided its about time to give an update. This is going to be too long to write in one reply, and I simply don't have so much spare time these days.
Let me just first off start by saying that what I write here is my opinion, and in no way reflects the experience of others. Please keep that in mind when making judgements about doctors and this process. Each experience in LL is unique and I can only share mine through my own experience.
I'll start of by saying that I have not recovered. My own understanding of why I have not recovered has to do with the nails that were used, along with an infection that I got when my hip wound opened up just weeks after the surgery on my left leg. I can sit here and bash Doctor Betz, but I won't do that. I will however just document my own experience about how my case was handled and people can decide for themselves what is best or good information for them.
I am in the process of a two stage surgery with an Orthopedic surgeon from the US. The total extra this has cost me is as follows:
July 2014 - flew to Germany in what was terrible condition, exchanged both nails for titaniums. Stayed total of 3 weeks, total Cost including lodging, PT, and surgery was 45K. Prior to that, I was paying nearly 3k per month with a specialist in LL who had helped AndrewShizzles. The sessions did me no good, because overall the bone was not healing. So in addition to the 45K , I had paid almost 12K just in maintenance costs as I like to think of it. Total Cost 12K + 45K = 57K.
By December of 2014, it was clear that my left leg would not heal, and my right just started healing only after the nail exchange. I then asked professor Betz to help me, and he advised I should wait longer. Most surprising was that his attitude towards me had changed. All along he was blaming me for the situation, and later he started to give very vague answers, and even told he doesn't have time to sit and answer my emails. I was asking specific questions and he was giving me short general answers. This was the most shocking aspect , to have your own doctor blame you for something clearly not in your control and to tell you "I don't know why this happened." I was like, wtf? How can a surgeon not know these things? I will explain more later.
By this time I was out of my mind, because I had no solutions and only guess work to go with. I decided that I would not wait longer and immediately contacted several LL doctors here in the US to see what my options are. Lo and behold, to my surprise, most doctors were quoting me 150K for a 2 stage procedure. Again I will get into all of that later, but for now I'll just tell that, my new cost will be approximately 150K.
So here is a summary people: 1. Paid nearly 80-90K for original surgery and costs
2. Paid 57K for PT and nail replacement due to Betz recommendation in July of 2014 when bones were not healing.
3. Paying nearly 150K for correcting what I am left with now, which is a bone deformity.
Grand total: 287K USD
If you guys think that this will not happen to you, I suggest you guys think long and hard. I am not a naysayer, but this experience was something I did not even fathom. I paid for the best doctor thinking I will have the most professional and best team as this is not something to take lightly, and it failed. Will I heal? I am optimist and I will get through this, but I just want others to know, that there is nothing compared to having your health. Sometimes be careful what you wish for.
I will fill on all the gaps in the days ahead. Take care ya'll.
I rest my case. the fruit of the man is from his own patients, no one here needs to say bad things about him nor intends to, his own patients have told us he is terrible.
in future its my life don't make statements to demonize people, instead bring up content to support an argument for debate.
take care my friend.
fp lol owned itsmylife
Im not saying they are good doctors but they have a name here on the forum. They have a reputation to protect. You've no name. I see no point stoking the fire if ex-patients have already complained so-and-so.
You seem to be anti-doctors and anti-establishment.
Quote from: ItsMyLife on March 15, 2015, 10:09:42 AMIm not saying they are good doctors but they have a name here on the forum. They have a reputation to protect. You've no name. I see no point stoking the fire if ex-patients have already complained so-and-so.
You seem to be anti-doctors and anti-establishment.
It's not FP who discredits them. They discredit themselves through the negative outcomes of their patients, and their arrogant and rude words and behaviour in the forum.
What are your problems with betz. The most diaries and especially the most successful diaries are from betz patients. Im in contact with several patients. They are all fine.
Masterhy is a Bad Story but He pushed too far. He had infection and still lengthened to 10cm. Betz should have stpped him but He was not staying in germany.
Quote from: coppkillr on April 04, 2015, 11:28:56 AMWhat are your problems with betz. The most diaries and especially the most successful diaries are from betz patients. Im in contact with several patients. They are all fine.
Masterhy is a Bad Story but He pushed too far. He had infection and still lengthened to 10cm. Betz should have stpped him but He was not staying in germany.
Stop lying about MasterHY. Betz told him there was no infection. Then he told him to click until his goal despite his problems and later after there was no callus he wrote him“I don't understand your worries at all”.
This is Not right. I talked about masterhy. He went home, clicked on his own, ignored everything, and then everything was damaged He wanted helps.
Quote from: coppkillr on April 05, 2015, 08:43:40 AMThis is Not right. I talked about masterhy. He went home, clicked on his own, ignored everything, and then everything was damaged He wanted helps.
You are a liar just like the doctor you are trying to promote. You have no shame or human decency.
You are just speculating that people are too lazy to read Masterhy's diary which unfortunately is often the case.
One needs to be extremely gullible to become a Betz patient these days.....
You are the only guy blaming betz. If He is as Bad as you sag, why are there none Bad diaries. Also you can ask ex patients who are in contact with other llrs. They are all satisfied. You probably do not have the money and have to go to india.
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