No difference.
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hi MDOW ,
thanks for helping alot of people regarding valuable information about LL , i really appreciate your contribution from my heart.
i want to ask something about ballerina , how long does it take to walk without any support ? like how long does it take for you to
get you ankle flexiblity to 110 or 120 degree .
thanks
Quote from: Machine on December 19, 2013, 06:54:57 PMhi MDOW ,
thanks for helping alot of people regarding valuable information about LL , i really appreciate your contribution from my heart.
i want to ask something about ballerina , how long does it take to walk without any support ? like how long does it take for you to
get you ankle flexiblity to 110 or 120 degree .
thanks
It varies from person to person. My roommate and I finished LL at about the same time. A few days before we left, Dr. Li came to visit us and said his knees were better than mine, but my ankles were better than his, and that I'd be able to walk sooner because of it.
One patient in Beijing was walking, without support, the day after his frame removal even though the doctors told him not to. I was very conservative so it was several weeks before I started doing that. Even though you can, it's a bad idea to do it until the titanium screws holding the IM nails in place have fused to the bones.
After frame removal, how long did it took you to be able to walk properly again?
I think it was about 2-3 months before I was walking properly/normally so nobody would notice something was wrong.
Ok ty 
Just out of curiosity can you remember roughly what the distribution of starting heights was like for patients, particularly the international patients. Were you one of the tallest or around average? and were you strongly discouraged from LL due to your starting height which is probably average for a Chinese male? I read in your diary about the lady who said your height was fine, was that the only time someone tried to discourage you based on your height? Were there any patients with surprising high starting heights? (175cm+)
Thanks so much for this invaluable thread.
Probably 2/3 of the patients or more were between 5'5 and 5'8, hoping to reach average height in their countries.
Most of the rest were between 5'2 and 5'4.
Three guys came in at 5'9 wanting to get to 6'. Some people didn't like the fact that they were there.
Is it ok if I ask you in here? Maybe Dameon can move it if it's inappropriate.
Why did you feel like you needed to remove the IM-nail? It is double trauma to your knees, and a serious kind too.
My doctor here in Sweden tells me I don't need to take the nails out and it's a reinforcement to my shins.
Did the screws in your knee bother you or any other?
Can you run 10kilometers and sprint like Usain Bolt? Does your knees ache for like 2 days if you do?
Tight ankle problems?
Sorry to bother you but I just want to know what I should look forward to....
I can now press real 100kilos in the leg press machine, but my knees ache for 2-3 days after I do it.
I can't run. 
Quote from: Sweden on December 29, 2013, 03:56:46 AMIs it ok if I ask you in here? Maybe Dameon can move it if it's inappropriate.
Why did you feel like you needed to remove the IM-nail? It is double trauma to your knees, and a serious kind too.
My doctor here in Sweden tells me I don't need to take the nails out and it's a reinforcement to my shins.
Did the screws in your knee bother you or any other?
Can you run 10kilometers and sprint like Usain Bolt? Does your knees ache for like 2 days if you do?
Tight ankle problems?
Sorry to bother you but I just want to know what I should look forward to....
I can now press real 100kilos in the leg press machine, but my knees ache for 2-3 days after I do it.
I can't run. 
I do think this belongs in the MDOW questions thread, but I'll respond here and Dameon can move it.
It was standard procedure to remove the nails at the Beijing Institute. I know in the west they like to leave IM nails in because it's less risky than having a second surgery, but in Beijing you take the risk with their experienced surgeon and try to go for the best possible result. I never really thought of not removing it.
The screws didn't bother me, but sometimes I felt some kind of internal pressure/tension like the bone and the nail were fighting each other for which angle the leg would have. This was especially noticeable when climbing ladders for some reason. My bone was 100% consolidated before that started happening though.
I haven't tried to run 10km ever in my life. I can sprint fine, but I rarely do it. My knees don't hurt afterward. I never tried sprinting with the nails in; I always just took it easy. The most I did was jog short distances before I got them out.
When I did leg presses with the nails in, my knees always felt better rather than worse, and the same was true for any exercise. That goes for without the nails too.
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