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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on January 20, 2014, 01:33:19 AMNear-constant knee issues, difficulty getting to and from the toilet, staff not answering the hospital phone when I needed them on many occasions, hospital filth, getting in fights with other patients, getting in fights with the staff, getting betrayed by my so-called girlfriend... it's all coming in future chapters of Fear and Lengthening in Beijing.

You seem to be an advocate for Beijing. Did you met someone there who has created an everlasting good impression for you? Like a female nurse or a Chinese stranger?

"betrayed by my so-called gf" lol.. that sounds familiar. Can't wait to read it!

I'm also working on my chapter 2 for my LL diary.

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Quote from: Smallguy on January 20, 2014, 01:51:26 AMYou seem to be an advocate for Beijing. Did you met someone there who has created an everlasting good impression for you? Like a female nurse or a Chinese stranger?

"betrayed by my so-called gf" lol.. that sounds familiar. Can't wait to read it!

I'm also working on my chapter 2 for my LL diary.

Wang Bei.   

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Hey mdow I have a few questions if you don't mind answering.
I have similar starting measurement's to you and am still weighing
up whether to do tibs or femurs.

Since I may only do one ll surgery in leaning towards tibs as too long
femurs just look weird. What is the length of your tibias
compared to your femur before and after your surgery? If your tibias become as long as your femurs
does it cause permanent problems.
Im aware after reading talks diary on old forum  that quite a few ll patients
have knee problems after just doing femurs.
Do you believe that it is going outside the range of normal tib and femur ratios
that causes knee problems?
Also what is your opinion on doing precise 2 on tibias?
Finally would you ever take a girlfriend along for support while doing ll.

Many thanks
theuprising

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I agree with you that overly long femurs look kind of weird.  People are used to seeing high knees due to shoes but nobody's used to seeing low knees.

My tibias and femurs are both approximately 18 inches now.  So my original femur:tibia ratio would've been 6:5.  Professor Xia said most short people have disproportionately short tibias but that wasn't the case with me.  I almost ended up doing femurs but he said that tibias would be okay as long as I didn't pass a 1:1 ratio.

Could you tell me which old forum  patients did only femurs and have knee problems as a result?  I'd like to read about that but I don't check old forum  regularly.  The only precaution Professor Xia gave me was not to make the tibias longer than the femurs, but perhaps that was because I was doing tibias and the too long femur information wouldn't have been relevant to me.

I don't know if going outside a normal femur:tibia ratio is what causes knee problems or not.  My guess is that it would make you walk funny - too long tibias would shorten your stride too much while too long femurs would lengthen it too much.  That may be a cause of knee problems.  My knee sensitivity is right where the patellar tendon is so I'm leaning toward the IM nail surgery as the cause of my knee issues, but that doesn't mean LLers can't get knee issues in other ways too.

I don't have any opinion on Precise since that was never an option in 2007.  My knowledge of the new devices isn't very good.

No way, I'd never take a girl along with me.  LL is about going away a short man and coming back a new man.  It's a journey of personal growth and change best taken alone in my opinion.  Maybe you'll meet a nice girl who's also doing LL while you're there.  Or a not so nice girl like I did. 

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It was tall who had to do tibia surgery as he
had made his femurs too long with dr betz, I believe
he lengthened 11cm femur and then had to do 6.5 cm
in tibias to prevent arthritis in his knees.
After this he advocated only doing a max of 7.5 cm on any
limb segment.

I will have to check with the doctor I do LL with thanks for
clearing up what ratio not to pass. I find it hard to believe some
people did 10cm on tibia and would imagine that there would
be serious recovery problems as a result.

It makes me glad to know someone with a similar height and weight
did this surgery to the lengthening limits I want to still has good proportions
and is really enjoying his new life. Sucks about that girl hope you have
found someone better.

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Hello everyone! I am new to this forum even I am visiting it for a while, just like old forum. U can't imagine how grateful I'm to all your posts and writings. Just to introduce myself shortly. I'm 26, male, 169cm. As my nickname says all I want is 4cm added to my height.

I contacted dr. Betz (he replied but it's sooo expensive - 50 000 euros and as I can see from others he doesn't do his job properly even for that price). I also read from your posts that dr. Guichet is number one in setting the price so I have to remove him from my list. The third one who is interesting to me is dr. Mitkovic from Serbia. I am Croatian so we are neighbours and it seems as a best option if I sum all the things written about him on forums; price, experience, great results.

Is there any patient here on LL forum who passed everything from operation to back-to-normal-life phase? If there is someone could he upload photos and write smth about it? Btw, I am an athlete - small one but still an athlete and as I said all I want is 4cm more to my height. What do u think, should I do it on femurs or tibias? If I go with dr. Mitkovic should I take external or internal method? I won't hurry going back home and for sure I won't lift heavy weighs immediately after the surgery so I'll take time for recovering.

I know all of u answered these type of questions hundreds of time but remember u were LL noob just like me so please help me.

Once again ty so much for sharing your  experience.

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I'm finished with LL and currently writing all about it.  It's not even half finished yet, but my LL experience is here:

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=84.0

My 1st choice was external tibiae with Dr. Mitkovic.  His 9300 Euro fee is very reasonable for Serbia.  Everything there is approximately 1/4 the price of the US so he's definitely not jacking up his prices to get extra money from foreigners.  Externals are cheaper and less invasive so that's why they were my choice, but you can live a more normal life while lengthening with intenrals.

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Hi Medium. I already read every single word u wrote and I'm impressed as everyone is. Ty for your time and advices. I sent an e-mail two days ago to dr. Mitkovic but he didn't respond yet. I hope he still does cosmetic LL surgeries and I wrote to him if it is necessary I'll come to Serbia for consultation.

Medium are u still in contact with that guy called Jungle u met in Serbia? How is he doing? Is there any photo of before and after? I mean even if I want to gain some extra cm I also don't want to ruin my body by someone who doesn't care about his patients (like that idiot from Ukraine who mutilated poor guy from Canada; I read about it on old forum). Is it ok to be a bit more cautious than usual?

Do u think dr. Mitkovic will answer my mail? Ty.

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Dr. Mitkovic still does cosmetic LL but only a limited number of cases per year.  He didn't reply to several of my emails in 2007 but when I got there, he remembered what I'd written.  If you can go to Serbia, I think that's definitely the best way to get his attention since he gets a lot of emails and doesn't respond to most of them.

I'm not in contact with Jungle anymore.  He and I had a fight on old forum  after I left Serbia.  Jungle posted quite a few pics of himself on old forum  that are probably still in his diary.  Dr. Mitkovic cares about his patients and has become more conservative after dealing with crazy patients like Serbtips and Jungle.  The maximum gains he's offering are lower and the number of people he takes is fewer than in the past.

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Great! U r right, I have to go to Nis and talk to him personally and see what he can do with my legs

Btw, I've played soccer for 19 years and my legs go a bit like letter "o". Could that present a problem in lengthening my legs?
What will take more time to recover? External, internal? Tibias, femurs?

Ty.