Do you think that anyone got lower quality of care and treatment than other patients or descrimination of any kind at the Guang Ji Hospital as the result of any factor (country of origin, starting height of 5'9+, political/religious identity etc)? I am from the United States and don't know if all Chinese would take too kindly to that. Happy new year by the way!
Quote from: Tall on December 29, 2013, 06:00:41 PMDo you think that anyone got lower quality of care and treatment than other patients or descrimination of any kind at the Guang Ji Hospital as the result of any factor (country of origin, starting height of 5'9+, political/religious identity etc)? I am from the United States and don't know if all Chinese would take too kindly to that. Happy new year by the way!
They have a new religion in China, and it's called foreigner worship. Especially American or British, because that signifies international power/status. The lighter your hair/skin the better, also. Several Chinese people wanted to take their picture with me just because I'm white.
The people who are discriminated against there are the local Chinese patients.
Thanks for all the info Medium drink of water,
Just have one big question for you 
You say that you have lost agility in your legs, and you think the reason is because you have a longer bone now but the same muscle mass you did earlier but stretched further to match the new bone length. That sounds logical.
However ive read on some FAQ on old forum and i believe this forum as well, and heard many people claiming that the muscles, nerves and tendons will "grow" when you do LL, only it does it more slowly as the body regenerates the soft tissue slower than the bone. So at first the soft tissue is stretched as it cannot regenerate at the same speed of the bone, but eventually new soft tissue would be created to match the new bone lenght.
Considering how your own body have healed, do you believe that info above to be false? or does it depend on the individual? (i know some people claimed their calf muscles experienced hypertrophy and grew in size larger than they were before LL)
I think it depends on the person. I'm skinny and have trouble putting on weight. I might've been rejected entirely if I'd gone to Guichet since he insists on many patients putting on extra muscle before he'll operate.
1.Have there been people who have aborted the operation after feeling to much pain in their legs?
2. How fast did the time seem to go. What i mean is time and days.
Quote from: Slim_tim on January 19, 2014, 10:33:19 PM1.Have there been people who have aborted the operation after feeling to much pain in their legs?
2. How fast did the time seem to go. What i mean is time and days.
1. Yes! There was a guy who went home after not even 2cm because of the pain.
2. Once I'd gotten into a nice routine, the time went by pretty quickly. If you have a schedule and stick to it, the days will pass quicker. Here's one that worked for me:
8:00 get up and eat breakfast
9:00 brush teeth then take a nap
11:00 internet
1:00 eat lunch
1:30 videogames
3:00 internet
4:00 movie
6:00 eat dinner then go out and socialize
10:00 internet
10:30 bedtime
That was approximately what I did every day towards the end.
Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on January 19, 2014, 11:40:51 PM8:00 get up and eat breakfast
9:00 brush teeth then take a nap
11:00 internet
1:00 eat lunch
1:30 videogames
3:00 internet
4:00 movie
6:00 eat dinner then go out and socialize
10:00 internet
10:30 bedtime
That was approximately what I did every day towards the end.
Wow, if it weren't for the pain involved, that would sound to me like a pretty nice and relaxing, albeit perhaps painfully uneventful, life. How often did you exercise, and what kinds of exercises did you have to do? Was the relative isolation minimal enough to keep most of the patients from going cuckoo? I've read your diary (I admit I check for updates almost daily), and sometimes wonder if more people didn't become a little depressed and weird after being crippled and stuck in China so long. Did mummy have issues before LL, or did the LL experience mess with his mind pretty bady?
Also, did anyone try lengthening at home, or at least going home with frames on? If so, how did they fare?
Medium Drink Of Water,
All in all i feel that it all was a positive experience..almost to good to be true.
But can you tell us about the dark side of the trip. Just one of those days where everything went wrong.
Quote from: Tall on January 20, 2014, 12:01:55 AMWow, if it weren't for the pain involved, that would sound to me like a pretty nice and relaxing, albeit perhaps painfully uneventful, life. How often did you exercise, and what kinds of exercises did you have to do? Was the relative isolation minimal enough to keep most of the patients from going cuckoo? I've read your diary (I admit I check for updates almost daily), and sometimes wonder if more people didn't become a little depressed and weird after being crippled and stuck in China so long. Did mummy have issues before LL, or did the LL experience mess with his mind pretty bady?
The memories of the pain and misery fade and I'm left looking back on a really relaxing 5-month vacation sometimes. 
No responsibilities, no obligations, it was like being a kid again in some ways.
For exercise I'd do leg lifts, ankle flexes, standing, and walking. I didn't exercise regularly though, due to problems with my knees. I'll make sure to include the details about the complications and what I could and couldn't do because of them in my future Patient Experience entries.
Most people had roommates so we weren't totally isolated, but a lot of people did end up going a little bit cuckoo, including me. The locals called it shen jing bing. Some turned it inward and got depressed and wanted to be isolated, some turned it outward and started fighting and causing mischief (that was me), and some fit in both categories at different points during their LL. I'm pretty sure Mummy had issues before coming, but I can't be 100% sure since he was already there when I arrived and I didn't get to know him until the middle of my LL journey.
Quote from: Tall on January 20, 2014, 12:04:56 AMAlso, did anyone try lengthening at home, or at least going home with frames on? If so, how did they fare?
Yeah, the guy who quit after less than 2cm went home with his frames on. I was a 2007 patient and he was a 2008 patient, so I actually first met him when I was there for my internal nail removal. We were both there for the same reason. He was mostly consolidated so his frames and one of the nails were removed at that time. I haven't met or heard of anyone leaving and lengthening a bunch, then coming back.
Quote from: Slim_tim on January 20, 2014, 12:42:25 AMMedium Drink Of Water,
All in all i feel that it all was a positive experience..almost to good to be true.
But can you tell us about the dark side of the trip. Just one of those days where everything went wrong.
Near-constant knee issues, difficulty getting to and from the toilet, staff not answering the hospital phone when I needed them on many occasions, hospital filth, getting in fights with other patients, getting in fights with the staff, getting betrayed by my so-called girlfriend... it's all coming in future chapters of Fear and Lengthening in Beijing.
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