I had LL in 2007 and I'm still here. Ask me anything!

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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on March 31, 2022, 08:52:37 PMThe gym at the hospital had wooden wedges for patients to stand on, a leg extension machine, and a treadmill.  Few people went there though.  Lying in bed and lifting your whole leg was recommended.  Everyone used walkers, so using them was encouraged, as was standing in place.  Also, they provided sandbags to put on your knees.
Thanks! As English is not my native language could you include a link to any picture of what an wooden edge in this case is? Also, how long did you try to do active exercise or at least walk or stand, daily?

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Quote from: Resiliency on March 31, 2022, 08:57:26 PMIf your starting height were 5'6", how much would you do?
I think 5 cm is a good number.

QuoteWouldn't the death case bother you though? If you were to do external tibia lengthening and money wasn't an issue, which surgeon would you go to?
No.  I don't know anything about the death case since I haven't been researching doctors lately, but patient deaths from surgery happen.  As long as it wasn't due to his negligence I wouldn't think he's a bad surgeon because of it.

Paley.  He's the best.

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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on March 31, 2022, 10:37:45 PMI think 5 cm is a good number.

But at 172cm, you're still rather shortish while at 173-174cm you're closer to average.

Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on March 31, 2022, 10:37:45 PMNo.  I don't know anything about the death case since I haven't been researching doctors lately, but patient deaths from surgery happen.  As long as it wasn't due to his negligence I wouldn't think he's a bad surgeon because of it.

Well the thing is we can't know for sure if it's his negligence or not. But if a surgeon already has one death in a very short career of 4 years and another like Paley has 0 death in 3 decades of career, there is probably something there.

Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on March 31, 2022, 10:37:45 PMPaley.  He's the best.

But Paley doesn't do external CLL and also don't you think he is a bit old by now?

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Do u know the rate of Americans who are part-working to pay the total fees when studying as graduates?
I am willing to migrate over America to study abroads and my family can't afford the total fees so I must part-work there to pay the fees.

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Quote from: Resiliency on March 31, 2022, 11:11:03 PMBut at 172cm, you're still rather shortish while at 173-174cm you're closer to average.

Well the thing is we can't know for sure if it's his negligence or not. But if a surgeon already has one death in a very short career of 4 years and another like Paley has 0 death in 3 decades of career, there is probably something there.

But Paley doesn't do external CLL and also don't you think he is a bit old by now?

Starting shorter means you should lengthen less though.

One is not a pattern so don't read too much into that.

Paley won't do externals anymore even if you ask for them?  I'm doubting that.  He's probably still good at his present age.

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Quote from: Sorcerer on March 31, 2022, 11:46:13 PMDo u know the rate of Americans who are part-working to pay the total fees when studying as graduates?
I am willing to migrate over America to study abroads and my family can't afford the total fees so I must part-work there to pay the fees.

I don't know but it's different for international students anyway.  I don't believe there are any Work+Study visas.  You'd only be allowed to work at the university. 

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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on April 01, 2022, 03:00:54 AMPaley won't do externals anymore even if you ask for them?  I'm doubting that.  He's probably still good at his present age.

I've talked to him many times and I conclude that he is anti external lengthening for cosmetic. Well, I do think that if I insist hard enough, I should be able to convince him to do it but that would mean that he wouldn't do it whole-heartedly.

Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on March 31, 2022, 10:37:45 PMbut patient deaths from surgery happen.

Btw, your previous statement makes me think, were you really prepared to die for your surgery back then?

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Hi MDWater,

I’m currently doing Precice Tibias and has lengthened 5.7cm.  Atm knees are kind of tight but I can still fully extend them with a bit of force.  I have slight ballerina with heels about 3cm off the ground but after 3-5?minutes of standing they go down and touch the ground.  I want to gain 7cm given my conditions are good with no pain and I can walk well with a walker. 

My questions are:

1. Back then when you lengthened yours past 6cm did you feel pain or see signs of over-extending which may lead to repercussions?  Or were the potential complications unforseeable?

2.  I understand you wished you had only done 6 instead of 8 due to the exertional compartment syndrome you experienced later on, but as you mentioned most people who did tibias in China during that time went well past 6 on tibias.  Do you know the percentage of good recovery rate among them?  Or do most regret going past 6?

Thanks for your answers.  I have a strong desire to get to 7 but am wondering if it’s worth the risk.

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Quote from: Resiliency on April 01, 2022, 06:19:27 AMI've talked to him many times and I conclude that he is anti external lengthening for cosmetic. Well, I do think that if I insist hard enough, I should be able to convince him to do it but that would mean that he wouldn't do it whole-heartedly.
I don't think that's an issue.  He's done them thousands of times, and he knows how to do them well.  Whether he recommends them or not for cosmetic purposes won't affect his performance in the operating room.

QuoteBtw, your previous statement makes me think, were you really prepared to die for your surgery back then?
I knew it was a risk and I went anyway.

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Quote from: z3dennis on April 01, 2022, 08:26:01 AMHi MDWater,

I’m currently doing Precice Tibias and has lengthened 5.7cm.  Atm knees are kind of tight but I can still fully extend them with a bit of force.  I have slight ballerina with heels about 3cm off the ground but after 3-5?minutes of standing they go down and touch the ground.  I want to gain 7cm given my conditions are good with no pain and I can walk well with a walker. 

My questions are:

1. Back then when you lengthened yours past 6cm did you feel pain or see signs of over-extending which may lead to repercussions?  Or were the potential complications unforseeable?
No new/special problems occurred after going past 5, 6, or even 7.  Totally unforseeable, yes.

Quote2.  I understand you wished you had only done 6 instead of 8 due to the exertional compartment syndrome you experienced later on, but as you mentioned most people who did tibias in China during that time went well past 6 on tibias.  Do you know the percentage of good recovery rate among them?  Or do most regret going past 6?

Thanks for your answers.  I have a strong desire to get to 7 but am wondering if it’s worth the risk.

I still keep in touch with one other person (a female) who started out a few inches shorter than me, lengthened just a little more than me, and didn't get compartment syndrome.  I had duck feet my whole life (like my father and all his siblings) which was fixed by rotating everything below the osteotomy site during the frame removal surgery.  A different orthopedic surgeon (who doesn't do LL) examined me afterward and told me I had flat feet, but I don't know if I had them before LL or not and there's no way of finding that out now, obviously.  I don't know if either of these issues had anything to do with the compartment syndrome or not.