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Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on August 23, 2020, 05:28:29 AMSorry, I'm not gonna post a video for me here.
I think I already revealed too much of my privacy to help people here.
But a video or photo is too much.

The best way to see a recovered LL veteran is to ask a LL doctor to see some patients that are coming back to take their nail out.
When I went back to Germany to have my nails taken out I talked with a good number of prospective Betz's patients.

Come on g it’ll help a brother out 10 fold.. let us see that you can walk,  jog and run like a normal person man especially considering you claim 100% recovery you get me !

Get that good karma points!

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Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on August 21, 2020, 09:18:11 PMAlthough I had consultations with a good amount of the most well known LL doctors before my LL, I didn't get this information only from them. I did a very thorough scientific review of LL before I decided to actually do it. I have an academic background, so that was normal for me. I spent months reading all academic papers about LL that I could, specially the ones written by potential doctors (Betz, Paley, Guichet - they all have written tons of papers about LL).

Let me show you a very old paper (from 1987) that explicitly tells us that new soft tissue is created during LL. This is a well know fact for DECADES. It really drives me crazy that in this forum (and in the old one) people have this misconception that we are just stretching our legs during LL. That's insane! Here's the article (ScienceDirect link, then Pdf link):

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/000712268790186X#!

https://www.jprasurg.com/article/0007-1226(87)90186-X/pdf

Here's the relevant part:

In many of Ilizarov’s patients and those of other
authors (Krjur et al., 1985) there are reports of bone
being regenerated in limbs to lengths of more than
20 cm, by using single or multiple osteotomies. The
successful formation of this “regenerated tissue”
depends on an ideal relationship between the
osteoplastic capacity of the tissue that has been
stimulated and the degree of distractive stimulus
that has been applied. This will only take place if
the bone remains well vascularised.
Ilizarov has extended the concept of “organic
regeneration” of bone to other tissues (e.g. muscle,
tendon, blood vessels, nerve and skin), recognising
in all of them a capacity to grow in response to a
distractive stimulus, a principle accepted in the use
of soft tissue expanders. In practice, any living
tissue which is mechanically stressed responds by
growing in the direction of the stress.

And as I said before, this is just one of TONS of academic papers about this.
LL creates new soft tissue. Period.

LL creates new bone. Not soft tissue.
If it did, then we could have lengthen easily 15 cm in each bone (tibia and femur), not struggling to lengthen more than 7cm, especially on tibias.

So yes, bone regenerates but soft tissue only stretches to some degree. After that you have a permanent loss of ROM or tearings.
Everything else is bs and far from reality.

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Quote from: Body Builder on September 02, 2020, 10:47:01 PMLL creates new bone. Not soft tissue.
If it did, then we could have lengthen easily 15 cm in each bone (tibia and femur), not struggling to lengthen more than 7cm, especially on tibias.

So yes, bone regenerates but soft tissue only stretches to some degree. After that you have a permanent loss of ROM or tearings.
Everything else is bs and far from reality.

It does create new soft tissue. The problem is that soft tissue does not grow as fast as bone does. When you lengthen a bone, soft tissue are stretched and then grow. LL is akin to some degree to natural growth process, but LL is a much faster process. Because of the speed of lengthening, you may result in damaging soft tissue.

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Quote from: Aquahoma2 on September 02, 2020, 11:02:47 PMIt does create new soft tissue. The problem is that soft tissue does not grow as fast as bone does. When you lengthen a bone, soft tissue are stretched and then grow. LL is akin to some degree to natural growth process, but LL is a much faster process. Because of the speed of lengthening, you may result in damaging soft tissue.

For sure, you're exactly right. The lengthening is faster than the tissue regeneration, that's why you only really heal months or years later.

But I wasn't talking about people like you that knows this. I'm talking about people that think that LL ONLY stretches the soft tissues without regrowing at any time.