What is your ideal height and why?

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Quote from: Taller on October 10, 2014, 08:57:48 PMYes, I'm greedy  And I reacted too strongly. My apologies for that.

I was defensive because, since joining this forum, I have felt that some shorter people don't approve of my presence because they feel that it is unfair to them and immoral for a person of average height to become tall through LL.

I don't see why everyone with height neurosis can't get LL and become happy, regardless of their starting height. It's hardly like a few 178-180CM people getting LL will push the average height up so much that shorter people who've had LL will become relatively short again.

I also noticed this but it's understandable LL is a gruesome procedure and I probably would have thought the same if I were shorter.

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Quote from: Taller on October 10, 2014, 08:57:48 PMYes, I'm greedy  And I reacted too strongly. My apologies for that, Wannabegiant.

I was defensive because, since joining this forum, I have felt that some shorter people don't approve of my presence because they feel that it is unfair to them and immoral for a person of average height to become tall through LL.

I don't see why everyone with height neurosis can't get LL and become happy, regardless of their starting height. It's hardly like a few 178-180CM people getting LL will push the average height up so much that shorter people who've had LL will become relatively short again.

No worries man, i understand your take on this, glad we could talk this through anyway, its an interesting discussion

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Quote from: Wannabegiant on October 10, 2014, 09:10:20 PMNo worries man, i understand your take on this, glad we could talk this through anyway, its an interesting discussion

Me too. What's awesome is that we're the same height now! Based on my experience, nothing (except maybe an NBA career, but who cares) is out of your reach at this height. Enjoy!

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Quote from: Taller on October 10, 2014, 08:57:48 PMI was defensive because, since joining this forum, I have felt that some shorter people don't approve of my presence because they feel that it is unfair to them and immoral for a person of average height to become tall through LL.

And it is only fair. Most of the guys looking to get LL are in a height range of 162-175 (85% are - old forum  poll), the lower range (162-168) will have a hard time getting to your height even with TWO surgeries, the higher (168-175) will need at least two surgeries, if they want to look proportionate. LL is a stressful procedure as it is and all of you 5'11+ guys are only here to stress and annoy everyone even more. Your complaints about average, average-tall height, which mostly consist of delusions, serve as even more of annoyance, and you're hinting everyone (85%, the majority) that even with two surgeries they're supposed to feel inferior and unhappy, just like you do. I think it's not that hard to understand. And if it is for you, try to imagine someone at your target... "perfect height" join this forums and start whining daily how he feels short at 195 cm and he needs to lengthen 10 cm, so he could feel like a leader or some crap like that. Surely you wouldn't take that serious, huh, and you'd probably think that he's mentally challenged.

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Quote from: exclide on October 10, 2014, 09:23:58 PMAnd it is only fair. Most of the guys looking to get LL are in a height range of 162-175 (85% are - old forum  poll), the lower range (162-168) will have a hard time getting to your height even with TWO surgeries, the higher (168-175) will need at least two surgeries, if they want to look proportionate. LL is a stressful procedure as it is and all of you 5'11+ guys are only here to stress and annoy everyone even more. Your complaints about average, average-tall height, which mostly consist of delusions, serve as even more of annoyance, and you're hinting everyone (85%, the majority) that even with two surgeries they're supposed to feel inferior and unhappy, just like you do. I think it's not that hard to understand. And if it is for you, try to imagine someone at your target... "perfect height" join this forums and start whining daily how he feels short at 195 cm and he needs to lengthen 10 cm, so he could feel like a leader or some crap like that. Surely you wouldn't take that serious, huh, and you'd probably think that he's mentally challenged.

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Quote from: exclide on October 10, 2014, 09:23:58 PMAnd it is only fair. Most of the guys looking to get LL are in a height range of 162-175 (85% are - old forum  poll), the lower range (162-168) will have a hard time getting to your height even with TWO surgeries, the higher (168-175) will need at least two surgeries, if they want to look proportionate. LL is a stressful procedure as it is and all of you 5'11+ guys are only here to stress and annoy everyone even more. Your complaints about average, average-tall height, which mostly consist of delusions, serve as even more of annoyance, and you're hinting everyone (85%, the majority) that even with two surgeries they're supposed to feel inferior and unhappy, just like you do. I think it's not that hard to understand. And if it is for you, try to imagine someone at your target... "perfect height" join this forums and start whining daily how he feels short at 195 cm and he needs to lengthen 10 cm, so he could feel like a leader or some crap like that. Surely you wouldn't take that serious, huh, and you'd probably think that he's mentally challenged.

If this thread makes people feel bad maybe a moderator can delete it. Nothing valuable would be lost really.

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This thread should not be deleted. I don't want to see this forum turn into an old forum -esque venue, where information and posts are deleted at random. There is good evidence in here illustrating how most actual LLers are pretty sick f**ks, lol. I'll be the first to admit that at average height, this shouldn't be a necessary procedure. I won't deny the fact that shorter men have it far harder than average men, and it shouldn't be discounted on here.

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I don't see why people think its unethical to get LL if you are above average. Silly sure, thats a fine opinion, but to say its unethical just sounds like someone who's below average and can't do the surgery and is bitter that they can't even get to that persons starting height.

At the end of the day LL is just as ethical as getting braces, or any other cosmetic augmentation. You could also argue its the same as buying a fancy car or nice house. That raises your value and improves your quality of life, but is it unethical to do so just because you are wealthy and someone else isn't, and just further flaunts what you have and they don't? Of course its not unethical-everyone is constantly doing things to raise their value- get a better job, get whiter teeth, get into shape.

LL is a hard process, if someone is willing to raise the funds to do it, regardless of their starting height theres nothing wrong with doing so. Even if their parents pay for it, they are still sacrificing their time and dealing with plenty of pain. There was someone who finished lengthening as I got here who had been a bit taller than me pre lengthening, and did two operations to gain 1 3/4 inches TOTAL, blowing 200k or so in the process. Sure that came from his parents and could have gone towards something else to raise is value so to speak, but for being willing to brutalize his body twice and lengthen the tiny bit he did, perfectly accounting for his proportions, power to him.

Lastly, its pointless to argue the ethics since this is kind of something that will never come up since no one knows what LL is for the most part and no short guy will ever be getting laughed at by some tall guy and be shouting about how his height is an unnatural abomination since he got it at an average height.

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More people know about LL than you'd think.  There's been significant exposure in the media and when you type in limb on google, limb lengthening is one of the top queries. It's not like this is some encrypted silk road forum where only the most exclusive of people can join and view. It's open for the whole world to see.

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Hey programdude,

Check your pm.