When is LL worth it?

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Quote from: Morgenst. on July 10, 2017, 04:07:28 AMMan I don't even know how to answer your question because it seems your issue is much more geared towards your own sense of self worth than height. Yes 5'8 is a lick away from the average height but if you think 3 inches is gonna suddenly get you all the confidence and all the p*ssy in the world you're mistaken. I don't know what you consider "struggle" in the dating scene but I'm 5'3 and when even without lifts I don't have much trouble picking up women. You don't look like a troll in your pic or anything so try bringing your BMI down and building that confidence up in other ways before going the LL route, that'd be my advice.

To me its not about attracting girls. I attract plenty. The issue is attracting the one that I am legitimately interested in. I seem to attract crazy girls that are pretty attractive but I also attract girls that arent the prettiest. I want to attract a pretty girl that isnt psycho and actually has long term goals, so I can start a family with her.

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Quote from: yyes on July 10, 2017, 04:51:05 AMTo me its not about attracting girls. I attract plenty. The issue is attracting the one that I am legitimately interested in. I seem to attract crazy girls that are pretty attractive but I also attract girls that arent the prettiest. I want to attract a pretty girl that isnt psycho and actually has long term goals, so I can start a family with her.

You attract what you seek. A lot of the time we don't realize that our habits or personality is attracting what we receive. Take some time to reassess if you are what those goal-driven, attractive women want (aside from height).

I'd also like to highlight what another member said about how you treat those girls. You have to treat all women the same because it will be that confidence you give off to say, an unaattractive girl, that will attract the ones you want.

It's all mental.

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Quote from: biggerdreams on July 10, 2017, 04:45:17 AMI couldn't agree with all of this more. This seems to be a self confidence issue but a lot of the time people don't realize this about themselves so it's impossible to fix a problem you aren't aware of.

Curious though, Morgenst, even if you can get girls easily, are you considering LL and why?

It's hard to explain but it's very much something I want for my own personal enjoyment. I never wanted to be 6ft tall adonis or any of that crap but there is a certain ping that goes off in my mind when I approach a bar and the counter reaches halfway to my torso where everyone else it comfortably reaches waist or belly button level, not being able to see over certain things. They're small inconsequential things, I'm aware of it but I view this as a cosmetic surgery first and foremost for myself. The way I see it some people want a new nose or lips and this is what I want. I'd wouldn't die without it by any means but it is an indulgence I'd like to give myself.

Yess- I don't know man again 3 inches will not get you the wifey you're after. I don't see how a height increase will you get a sane woman, the two things aren't correlated. That's like a woman thinking a breast augm. will suddenly get her a respectable man she has yet been able to find

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Quote from: Morgenst. on July 10, 2017, 05:07:11 AM

Yess- I don't know man again 3 inches will not get you the wifey you're after. I don't see how a height increase will you get a sane woman, the two things aren't correlated. That's like a woman thinking a breast augm. will suddenly get her a respectable man she has yet been able to find

http://www.vinaywcmd.com/2013/12/male-face-versus-male-body-versus-male.html

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Quote from: yyes on July 10, 2017, 05:09:34 AMhttp://www.vinaywcmd.com/2013/12/male-face-versus-male-body-versus-male.html

Bro, you seem pretty fixated with certain ideas. Signs of instability.

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Quote from: lomazzo on July 09, 2017, 01:20:20 AMI wouldn't do it even if I was 5 foot tall, but that's my opinion and I understand that almost everyone disagrees with me here.

What I really don't understand is why a 5'6"+ man would do it. You're not that short. Wear lifts! If you're 5'6" then you'll be 5'9" (average height) with 3 inch lifts. Why not do that?

first of all, lifts are suppose to be for formal events when there are gonna be tons of chicks in heels to balance the height difference. second of all, the 5'6 man is better off doing 8cm in femurs than hiding behind lifts their entire life. third of all, what are u gonna do when ur gf or a chick u brought home sees u without the shoes?

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I read the article. One of the most ridiculus pieces of paper I have ever seen. I am not going to explain why as just rethinking about this article can make my brain shrink because of all the stupidity in it.

 Dude, reading your comments it appears more and more appearant that you are a mental case. Get off this forum and go to a psicologist or a shrink becuase you are not OK and that's why you only attract women who are not mentally OK.

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Quote from: 0184946 on July 10, 2017, 08:35:21 PMfirst of all, lifts are suppose to be for formal events when there are gonna be tons of chicks in heels to balance the height difference. second of all, the 5'6 man is better off doing 8cm in femurs than hiding behind lifts their entire life. third of all, what are u gonna do when ur gf or a chick u brought home sees u without the shoes?

I find that height is something you judge a person for at first impression. It's a screen. When people get past that screen, the height is no longer the basis point. So the girl is your gf or you get her home, she's beyond focusing on your height.

But totally agree, LL > lifts for life.

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Reading through the comments and what not, I personally believe it has more to do with the way you see yourself.
Your height isn't a problem.. It is a normal height.

you are basically a few cm's taller than few most women out there, so your height wouldn't be a problem. Me on the other hand, 5'6 1/2. I struggle highly with confidence ..

What your problem is, is the way you see how things work.

You don't necessarily need height to attract a date.
I mean look at Zac Efron, he's the exact same height as you and women will do anything to spend time even close to him..

You could do better than a risky, dangerous surgery for something that can be overcome in safer ways.

Many people actually suffer from depression because of their height, Only then you "could" say it's reasonable for them to undergo the procedure..

How about, you visit a shrink, Give yourself some time to truly think about it, and then decide whether it's that important or not.
Wish you the best mate.

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So the solution is to be very handsome, famous and rich to attract women despite the lack of height.
In different words, be almost excellent in anything else to compensate for the lack of few inches height.

This is bs for me.
LL can make most of us to not need to compensate at all and feel complete with ourselves.
Becoming excellent in anything else just to be as successful is the average man in dating is first of all is unfair and  second even harder than LL.