When is LL worth it?

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I agree with Body Builder.You have reasons to do LL.You look short in the picture(sorry but thats the truth).Anyone who tells you,you dont look short is probably below 5'8 n feel u r lucky to be 5'8 OR they are just trying to be nice to you.From what I see,you have quite narrow shoulders(in my opinion) and a short lower body which makes you appear shorter than 5'8.Since you have short legs,I strongly believe LL is going to do you a lot of good.And hey,dont worry about your face.You are good looking 😘and this is coming from a lady.
If ONLY your personality is already impressive,LL shd be a significant plus  to your life(especially in your dating life).Cheers.

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on July 12, 2017, 06:01:10 PMThey care more about face than height when the guy is 5'6+ from what I have seen

5.6 is very short for most women to even care about how your face looks.
Yes, a 5.8 guy with muscles and a nice face can be as successful with women as a 5.11-6ft average looking man with average body.
So you should be almost excellent in everything else if you just lack 2-3 inches compared to average height (if you are even less then nothing can compensate in reality for that) to be the same as the average guy out there.
I am sorry but I am not ok with that although I really have a good face and some big muscles. If I didn't have the height I have, I would have been way better than average and now I am just average only from my height. And the strong majority of people at my height who just have an average face and not a built body are in a way worse situation.
And I am not talking about really short men but for 5.7-5.9 men. As I mentioned again and again I really believe that men under 5.7 are doomed. I don't say this is fair, it is not, but we talk the truth here. After all I was less than 5.7 before LL so I know what I am talking about.

So if someome is just less than average and does not want to compensate all of his life for that then LL is the only solution.
If someone is short, then LL is really important to live a normal and not an inferior life. That's the harsh truth.

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Quote from: Body Builder on July 12, 2017, 10:26:11 PM5.6 is very short for most women to even care about how your face looks.
Yes, a 5.8 guy with muscles and a nice face can be as successful with women as a 5.11-6ft average looking man with average body.
So you should be almost excellent in everything else if you just lack 2-3 inches compared to average height (if you are even less then nothing can compensate in reality for that) to be the same as the average guy out there.
I am sorry but I am not ok with that although I really have a good face and some big muscles. If I didn't have the height I have, I would have been way better than average and now I am just average only from my height. And the strong majority of people at my height who just have an average face and not a built body are in a way worse situation.
And I am not talking about really short men but for 5.7-5.9 men. As I mentioned again and again I really believe that men under 5.7 are doomed. I don't say this is fair, it is not, but we talk the truth here. After all I was less than 5.7 before LL so I know what I am talking about.

So if someome is just less than average and does not want to compensate all of his life for that then LL is the only solution.
If someone is short, then LL is really important to live a normal and not an inferior life. That's the harsh truth.

 I know tons of guys 5'7 5'8 5'9 and the good looking ones get women non stop. The 6'+ guys who are good looking are also getting girls. The not good looking guys of all these height ranges do bad.
  I think you still have your mind stuck in your past self. Guys who are 5'6+ and are good looking are getting more women than 5'10+ guys who are average looking. Deal with it

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I don't get why Bodybuilder is so against this notion. It's not like he will be physically hurt when a 5'6'' guy gets laid with a hot girl. Why not give this guy the credit her deserves? Instead of saying this is absolutely impossible, be motivated and inspired by shorter guys picking up chicks.

QuoteYou look short in the picture(sorry but thats the truth).Anyone who tells you,you dont look short is probably below 5'8 n feel u r lucky to be 5'8 OR they are just trying to be nice to you.

So much bullshit, including the idiotic statement "you are just short too, that's why your argument is invalid". Nobody in this photo is taller than him, so how can you honestly say he looks short.

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on July 12, 2017, 10:45:30 PM I know tons of guys 5'7 5'8 5'9 and the good looking ones get women non stop. The 6'+ guys who are good looking are also getting girls. The not good looking guys of all these height ranges do bad.
  I think you still have your mind stuck in your past self. Guys who are 5'6+ and are good looking are getting more women than 5'10+ guys who are average looking. Deal with it

I won't deal with it because simply it is not true.
A 5.6 guy will be rejected from 90% of women only for his height, no matter if he has a great face or a charming personality. Most women won't try to know him better because they can't see further his height.
A 5.10 and average in everything else guy will have much better chances because women don't care for excellent looks, they just don't want someone less than average in any aspect and height is the most important for them in men looks.

So a 5.10 average guy can have successes with women if he has a good character and even more if he has a good style (something that everyone can have).
A 5.6 man on the other hand won't as almost no woman can see past his short height.
I am so absolute about that the same as I believe that men more tham average height has almost nothing to gain from LL.
Height matters a lot for women when you are lack of it. If you are average and more then it stops to matter but if you don't, then the shorter you are the worse it becomes and when you are beyond the border of average (about 5.7) then almost nothing else matters.
Things are simple for me. Above 5.11 height does not matter and beyond 5.7 nothing can really compeasate for the lack of height.

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Quote from: Body Builder on July 12, 2017, 11:06:34 PMI won't deal with it because simply it is not true.
A 5.6 guy will be rejected from 90% of women only for his height, no matter if he has a great face or a charming personality. Most women won't try to know him better because they can't see further his height.
A 5.10 and average in everything else guy will have much better chances because women don't care for excellent looks, they just don't want someone less than average in any aspect and height is the most important for them in men looks.

So a 5.10 average guy can have successes with women if he has a good character and even more if he has a good style (something that everyone can have).
A 5.6 man on the other hand won't as almost no woman can see past his short height.
I am so absolute about that the same as I believe that men more tham average height has almost nothing to gain from LL.
Height matters a lot for women when you are lack of it. If you are average and more then it stops to matter but if you don't, then the shorter you are the worse it becomes and when you are beyond the border of average (about 5.7) then almost nothing else matters.
Things are simple for me. Above 5.11 height does not matter and beyond 5.7 nothing can really compeasate for the lack of height.

For me it's pretty simple that if you think women are robots who are all programmed to like the same than something is wrong with how you understand women and maybe this is why you and your friends (usually friends think alike) have a lot of drawbacks at your height.
  "sorry I date taller guys" is a common way for women (Never got that comment to be frank.. Just heard of it) to tell people they don't like for whatever reason that they don't like them. Usually it's also not the real reason because "sorry you are too short" sounds better (in their opinion) than "sorry but I don't date ugly".
 
 Anyhow, your views on women are skewed and no one should take tips about women from you

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on July 12, 2017, 11:10:53 PMFor me it's pretty simple that if you think women are robots who are all programmed to like the same than something is wrong with how you understand women and maybe this is why you and your friends (usually friends think alike) have a lot of drawbacks at your height.
  "sorry I date taller guys" is a common way for women (Never got that comment to be frank.. Just heard of it) to tell people they don't like for whatever reason that they don't like them. Usually it's also not the real reason because "sorry you are too short" sounds better (in their opinion) than "sorry but I don't date ugly".
 
 Anyhow, your views on women are skewed and no one should take tips about women from you

Sometimes they'll pick on something you can't change like height because they think it's better than saying something else that you can change like " sorry I don't like your personality" or "sorry I don't like your body". This to prevent guys from having the "I'll change just for you" mentality, and so guys don't keep bothering them will be left alone.

This isn't always the case but I think you get the point.

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Quote from: yyes on July 05, 2017, 04:54:36 PMI am a 28 year old male. My life has changed dramatically these last 6 months to the point where I can get the surgery done overseas next year.

I realize that I wont be able to be as athletic as I once was but thats ok. I dont like the way I look, especially in pictures. I legit look like a midget. This is how I feel. I measured myself yesterday and I am 5'8. In this picture, I am actually wearing 2 inch lifts and I still look short.

Heres a pic for reference. http://imgur.com/a/EMjE7

Main reason for doing this? To feel more confident and hopefully attract more girls. However, maybe my height isnt the issue, maybe it is. This is where your feedback is important to me. Also, I would appreciate it if you refrain from making any derogatory remarks. It takes a lot to post a picture and ask for help from internet strangers.

This is all I ask.

Thank you guys.

Do this for yourself Yyes.Its ur body n its your choice.

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Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on July 12, 2017, 10:52:37 PMI don't get why Bodybuilder is so against this notion. It's not like he will be physically hurt when a 5'6'' guy gets laid with a hot girl. Why not give this guy the credit her deserves? Instead of saying this is absolutely impossible, be motivated and inspired by shorter guys picking up chicks.

So much bullshit, including the idiotic statement "you are just short too, that's why your argument is invalid". Nobody in this photo is taller than him, so how can you honestly say he looks short.

Was there any need to insult me before making your point?The fact that he is among other short people doesn't make  him tall..I still stand by my words.He appears to be short.He is an individual and am focused on him in the pic.

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I went from 5'11 to 6'1, and in hindsight I am happy I did. But if I was 5'8 I would have been even more willing to go through the surgery.

If you do internal at a good doctor I do not think there are many risks nor side effects.

The height increase helped me be more confident. And currently I am seeing a girl that told me that she is unable to date guys below 6 feet. Furthermore, I am sometimes watching a speed dating TV show with my female flat mates and every time, the first thing they notice is the man's height : "Oh, he looks too short!". So it seems height is very important indeed.