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Posted on Nov 6, 2021, 10:15 pm
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People looking for LL in Greece have rights to know what can happens.  Ask the doctor giotikas how to prevent this from happening to you.  Knowledge is power. I don't say who is to blame but my dear friend had LL surgery in September in Greece and has been unconscious for many days since physical therapy and possible infarction. You hear the risks but you do not believe it will be you. Maybe just chance but may be needs a change in protocol. They will soon remove life support. He has GNail. He was strong person.  30 years. Everyone is too afraid to talk. Don't go alone.
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Posted on Nov 8, 2021, 1:59 pm
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a? what do you mean? is your friend fine now? anything irretrievable?
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Posted on Nov 9, 2021, 11:56 am
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Did Dr Giotikas make any comments about the incident? Does everything continue as per usual? Are there any concerns about the Guichet nail? Does the ratcheting mechanism cause increase in swelling and chance of PE? I am a bit scared as I was making plans to get Guichet nail.
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Posted on Nov 9, 2021, 2:04 pm
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Quote from: karin123 on November 08, 2021, 01:59:48 PMa? what do you mean? is your friend fine now? anything irretrievable?

They are brain dead. It happened in the 6th week of lengthening and he was only given 2 weeks of Xeralto (blood thinner). So far I've seen maybe 4 deaths from LL and all of them were from DVT/PE.  One this, another that indian guy whose sister wrote the blog about it and another 2 were in India (1 African girl and 1 indian girl). Maybe there are more that are not public.
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Posted on Nov 9, 2021, 8:41 pm
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Quote from: heelsunderhead on November 06, 2021, 10:15:37 PMPeople looking for LL in Greece have rights to know what can happens.  Ask the doctor giotikas how to prevent this from happening to you.  Knowledge is power. I don't say who is to blame but my dear friend had LL surgery in September in Greece and has been unconscious for many days since physical therapy and possible infarction. You hear the risks but you do not believe it will be you. Maybe just chance but may be needs a change in protocol. They will soon remove life support. He has GNail. He was strong person.  30 years. Everyone is too afraid to talk. Don't go alone.

Can you provide us proof?  I in contact with a few current patients in Athens, no one heard of this guy. Is this fake news? Look like this is you first post.
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Posted on Nov 9, 2021, 9:58 pm
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Quote from: taller2023 on November 09, 2021, 08:41:03 PMCan you provide us proof? I in contact with a few current patients in Athens, no one heard of this guy.

All patients in Athens know this. If they don't know, they are not patients or they are really ignorant.
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Posted on Nov 10, 2021, 2:52 am
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Can somebody clarify what exactly happened to this patient? People seem to be implying the reason he had DVT/PE is due to not being prescribed Xarelto more than 2 weeks. Someone said he had it after a PT session and the taxi driver drove off which made matters worse...

Just curious because Giotikas is currently at the top of my list for future LL'ing and it would be helpful to know exactly what happened.
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Posted on Nov 10, 2021, 3:18 am
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Quote from: thankscience on November 10, 2021, 02:52:19 AMCan somebody clarify what exactly happened to this patient?

How can other patients know "exactly" what happened? Of course, it's all anecdotes. It's not like every patient knows what exactly happened to everyone.

Email them and ask them yourself.

[email protected]   
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Posted on Nov 10, 2021, 3:38 am
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Quote from: questpeanut on November 10, 2021, 03:18:27 AMHow can other patients know "exactly" what happened? Of course, it's all anecdotes. It's not like every patient knows what exactly happened to everyone.

Email them and ask them yourself.

[email protected]
Some people have implied they were close with the patient, so I assumed we'd have more information than hearsay.
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Posted on Nov 10, 2021, 6:02 am
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Quote from: questpeanut on November 10, 2021, 03:18:27 AMHow can other patients know "exactly" what happened? Of course, it's all anecdotes. It's not like every patient knows what exactly happened to everyone.

Email them and ask them yourself.

[email protected]

Agree. I would ask them directly if i were to have my surgery there and needed responsible answers. You can't really expect to find anything but gossip here
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