Quote from: CaptainAmerica on December 26, 2016, 08:24:09 PMOf course, if you're older than 30, this all changes. Women will be less picky and willing to settle down. They'll care less about society's judgement and you'll have more of a chance no matter how short you are.
You got it wrong here, its not a matter of youre age but that of the female in this case...
Quote from: DreamOf180cm on January 03, 2017, 04:27:42 PMWhy are you even on this forum?
Cause he has alot of free time i guess
Quote from: Thatdude950 on January 01, 2017, 02:21:51 PMIt comes into play. A guy who's 6'2 is going to on average be better off that someone 5'5. I'm saying 2 inches makes next to no difference.
That's why people do 2 segment lengthening to gain 4-5 inches. Each segment being within the safe limits i.e. 5cm tibiae and 6cm femurs. That would be a huge significant improvement in contrast to just 2 inches. (and it might still be worth it depending on the individual to what impact his height effects him psychologically/mentally/physically in life even if it requires lot of time and money). A few months of suffering is still better than suffering for the rest of your life from:
a) Less respect from other people due to shorter than average stature.
b) Less success with women due to shorter than average stature. (There have been studies that shorter than average guys enjoy a less blissful romance life compared to tall men) Of course, there are other factors like personality and sense of humor but when one is handicapped (huge comparative disadvantage) a rather huge chunk compared to their tall counterparts due to being short, it's not really motivative to improve on these other factors and be fully dependent on them.
c) Less potential success in career i.e. management positions, pay, promotion and advancement discrimination (positions where there is power, authority and control) due to shorter than average stature. (There have been studies that people who are short are paid less on average)
d) Low self esteem and confidence due to the above. Wearing lifts does make you feel better temporarily but then again, it's not who you really are and you feel miserable and ungenuine wearing them => Causes a large backfire effect when you take them of.
Of course, first priority should always be a good reputable surgeon. Nonetheless, it's still a significant improvement going from 5'7 to 5'9 since you will come closer (if not at) to the equilibrium (assuming live in USA/Canada). Equilibrium, being the average cut-off point. 2 segments would mean 5'9 to 5'11 which would be beast and have an edge.
Quote from: Desktopx on January 03, 2017, 05:52:51 PMOf course, first priority should always be a good reputable surgeon. Nonetheless, it's still a significant improvement going from 5'7 to 5'9 since you will come closer (if not at) to the equilibrium (assuming live in USA/Canada). Equilibrium, being the average cut-off point. 2 segments would mean 5'9 to 5'11 which would be beast and have an edge.
IMO, you don't need to hit the 50th percentile spot to have an acceptable height. Being somewhere near the 50th percentile, or within the "average range" (that is, lets say, between 5'9 and 6'1) should be enough to live a good life as a normally tall guy. I hope.
Even 5'7 is good as a final result. No one considers you short (my case in canada, italy and israel and also France). I say this since people (and women) talk with me about how it sucks to be a short man or they say how being short is unattractive for a guy ( if anyone would have considered me short, they wouldnt say bad thongs about short men).
5'7 is not attractively tall.. BUT its not unattractively short... Its just it basically. No need to suffer for beong it, no need to feel bad if you reach it post LL and no need to feel bad for wanting to be taller than this... 5'7-5'11 is an awsome height range... Stop thinking being tall gives you an amazing life... It doesnt...
Its just a cosmetic improvement for the 5'6-5'8 guys... Not a life changer. Looks come first by far far far
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on January 03, 2017, 09:11:07 PMEven 5'7 is good as a final result. No one considers you short (my case in canada, italy and israel and also France). I say this since people (and women) talk with me about how it sucks to be a short man or they say how being short is unattractive for a guy ( if anyone would have considered me short, they wouldnt say bad thongs about short men).
5'7 is not attractively tall.. BUT its not unattractively short... Its just it basically. No need to suffer for beong it, no need to feel bad if you reach it post LL and no need to feel bad for wanting to be taller than this... 5'7-5'11 is an awsome height range... Stop thinking being tall gives you an amazing life... It doesnt...
Its just a cosmetic improvement for the 5'6-5'8 guys... Not a life changer. Looks come first by far far far
Ditto. Guys who will be 5'7 post LL or even before LL will be fine. I do wish some people would stop feeling such despair if they're in the 5'6-5'8 range though. It's like they act like their entire world is over, even with the option of LL being there.
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on January 03, 2017, 09:11:07 PMEven 5'7 is good as a final result. No one considers you short (my case in canada, italy and israel and also France). I say this since people (and women) talk with me about how it sucks to be a short man or they say how being short is unattractive for a guy ( if anyone would have considered me short, they wouldnt say bad thongs about short men).
5'7 is not attractively tall.. BUT its not unattractively short... Its just it basically. No need to suffer for beong it, no need to feel bad if you reach it post LL and no need to feel bad for wanting to be taller than this... 5'7-5'11 is an awsome height range... Stop thinking being tall gives you an amazing life... It doesnt...
Its just a cosmetic improvement for the 5'6-5'8 guys... Not a life changer. Looks come first by far far far
Perspective is the most important thing for understanding how LL can work. For a 5'5 guy, 5'7 can be a massive improvement. For a 5'7 guy, it might be 5'10 or 5'9. A lot of 5'3 guys would probably feel much better with 5'5 already, because it's less short and closer to the average range. Another 5'5 guy might however not mind his height. That's another important part of understanding how perspectives work...not all short men are unhappy with their height. And some men are unhappy at 5'10 - their feelings are valid, even though I think their crisis must be less severe. So yeah...perspective matters. There is no single "perfect height" for all men.
Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on January 03, 2017, 10:41:02 PMPerspective is the most important thing for understanding how LL can work. For a 5'5 guy, 5'7 can be a massive improvement. For a 5'7 guy, it might be 5'10 or 5'9. A lot of 5'3 guys would probably feel much better with 5'5 already, because it's less short and closer to the average range. Another 5'5 guy might however not mind his height. That's another important part of understanding how perspectives work...not all short men are unhappy with their height. And some men are unhappy at 5'10 - their feelings are valid, even though I think their crisis must be less severe. So yeah...perspective matters. There is no single "perfect height" for all men.
Problem is 5'10 guy just feel bad about himself.
But then you have 5'4 guy that feels bad about himself and suffer from social stigma.
Imho if you feel bad about yourself at 5'10 there is waaaaaaaay bigger chance that LL won't help you at all.
Yes Perspective is a real thing just like people who undergo sxx Assignment Surgery (SAR) and girls who go breast implantation and extensive exercise/diets/treatments just to lose weight even though all of these things are totally fine as they are, I mean some girls are satisfied with being a bit overweight and having small breast size.
IMHO, the more optimally farther your specific personal statistic is away from the comparable average, the more rational your desire to improve or enhance it (in our case Height). As a result, a 5'8 guy in the Netherlands is more rational getting CLL than a 5'6 guy in India.
But I think the average might not be a good indicator statistic to use if there is a high standard deviation. For eg. there can be fractionally significantly less young adults (1/3 or 33.33%) aged 18-35 with average height of 179cm than middle aged and elderly 40+ (2/3 or 66.66%) with average height of 173cm. This means the average statistic i.e. the mean is biased and we want unbiased comparisons. Majority of the people wanting CLL are mostly below 35 anyway.
Legitimate short guys who feel bad about their height, their pain is more rational than women who feel bad about their weight & cup size simply because both of these things can be changed more easily but height can't (except through LL).
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