Quote from: TIBIKE200 on December 27, 2016, 09:53:25 PMMy half brother was also underweight😃 he is 184cm now
My uncles were thin fcks and now they are around 200cm.
I was eating like a truck and ended up 166cm lmao.
So many desperate people here trying to justify their height. Hey guys time to face the facts, you got jacked off in a genetic lottery.
Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on December 27, 2016, 10:29:34 PMMy uncles were thin fcks and now they are around 200cm.
I was eating like a truck and ended up 166cm lmao.
So many desperate people here trying to justify their height. Hey guys time to face the facts, you got jacked off in a genetic lottery.
Yes the genetic lottery loaded the chamber but my awful eating/sleeping habits pulled the trigger. That's the reality of it, and it's over. For anyone else still growing, we should encourage them to not be underweight, exercise (Sprinting / swimming release a lot of HGH), and sleep 8+ hours day to reach their full genetic potential. I have no idea why this suggestion bothers everyone here so much.
If you start eating enough while you're still growing, recovery can occur:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6877321
I think that's happened to Cristian.
Look, it's not hard as a kid to not get enough calories. You skip breakfast, get a tiny ~400 calorie meal at school for lunch, come home, eat ~600 calories for dinner and go to sleep. You're at ~60% of the caloric intake you need to grow to your full potential. That's how easy it is to stunt your growth. As I said earlier, if you're still a teen: STUFF YOUR fkING FACE!!!!!!!
Quote from: CaptainAmerica on December 27, 2016, 09:48:59 PMA lot of us here stunted our growth due to our poor eating habits or upbringings. That's a reality we have to accept, for the sake of other teens who could be reading this right now.
STUFF YOUR fkING FACE!!! If you're not a little bit chubby as a teen you're doing it wrong!!!
Let's not pretend that this reluctant acceptance of reality is anything other than a feel good notion that provides a
quasi-moral/principled reason for going through with LL.
I sympathize with you man, I truly do, we all do, but for the sake of those teens you mentioned who could be reading this right now, please don't give them a false sense of hope that could result in their being overweight and/or unhealthy otherwise.
As to the Dutch, a study came out last year that attributed their height to natural selection.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/08/scientists-try-to-answer-why-dutch-people-are-so-tall
Quote from: Whereintheworld? on December 27, 2016, 11:39:01 PMLet's not pretend that this reluctant acceptance of reality is anything other than a feel good notion that provides a
quasi-moral/principled reason for going through with LL.
I sympathize with you man, I truly do, we all do, but for the sake of those teens you mentioned who could be reading this right now, please don't give them a false sense of hope that could result in their being overweight and/or unhealthy otherwise.
As to the Dutch, a study came out last year that attributed their height to natural selection.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/08/scientists-try-to-answer-why-dutch-people-are-so-tall
Devastating. LOL, that's honestly almost worse than knowing it was nutrition. 
Quote from: CaptainAmerica on December 27, 2016, 11:41:52 PMDevastating. LOL, that's honestly almost worse than knowing it was nutrition.
Now I'm playing the Devil's advocate here, but it very well could be nutrition in some cases. My grandfather and his brothers were all well over 6'0, with the exception being the eldest who grew up during the Great Depression, he was only 5'4.
Adam Lanza, the Sandy Hook elemantary shooter was an anorexic, skinny basement dweller. He was only 112 lbs and reports say he might have suffered from anorexia. But he still grew to 6 foot. Obviously now you could say that because of his lifestyle, he also stunted his growth and should have been 6'3'' or something with better nutrition. But still his body managed to distribute enough energy to his growth plates, despite his apparently horrible malnutrition. That tells us something, no?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting#Perpetrator
Quote from: jbc on December 27, 2016, 07:37:21 PMIf you have something concrete to share about Dr. Paley, the entire forum, myself included, would appreciate it. If you do not, please do not slander (this goes for any Dr., not just Dr. Paley).
That said, I'd love to know what you found that I could not, I dug pretty deep, with the help of another Dr.
https://www.ratemds.com/doctor-ratings/30268/Dr-Dror-Paley-West+Palm+Beach-FL.html
https://sites.google.com/site/mycrippledleg/home/dr-paley-2-html
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-doctor-dror-paley-20160318-story.html
Yes, because it's a coping mechanism and distraction. Whatever height you are, there are millions of men that have just got on with it. The fact you haven't shows that you are the problem. A few extra inches won't suddenly have people respect you, get you a job, have women interested etc. what are you gonna do when you're a bit taller and everything is exactly the same?
Quote from: Premedlegs1994 on December 28, 2016, 03:13:52 AMhttps://www.ratemds.com/doctor-ratings/30268/Dr-Dror-Paley-West+Palm+Beach-FL.html
https://sites.google.com/site/mycrippledleg/home/dr-paley-2-html
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-doctor-dror-paley-20160318-story.html
Are you kidding, this is what you have? Some anonymous ratings and a half-baked blog post?
I'm certain of several things. One, that over the course of his near 40 year career, Dr. Paley has made some mistakes, maybe some resulting in patient disability. When you've done that many procedures, statistics indicate that you're going to make mistakes. It's inevitable.
Second, that this would be true for any Dr. in any specialty over the same period of time with the same amount of procedures. Again, statistics and law of averages.
Third, that Dr. Paley has probably contributed more to CLL than any other Dr. on the planet. He trained a good portion of the other surgeons on this board. He's pictured with Dr. Guichet as having helped develop the Albizzia nail. He helped develop the Precise, the Precise 2, and is the lead researcher for the full weight bearing Precise.
Fourth, he's responsible for 1/6th of all the Precise CLL procedures worldwide.
Fifth, he's renowned not just for CLL, but for limb lengthening and limb reconstruction. I visited his facility. It was full of malformed kids, mostly. One family shared that they fought immigration laws in their home country for nearly a year to have a chance for their little boy to have surgery with Dr. Paley, and their little boy is now on the road to full recovery.
Sixth, that you can probably not find someone as qualified anywhere else to have this procedure. He has practically an entire hospital dedicated to doing this type of work.
No Dr. worth their salt is free from mistakes. My father was a Dr. for over 40 years, and he lost patients. He was also known as one of Europe's best Dr's. in his specialty.
CLL is an invasive, complicated procedure, and those that have done it or considering it are unquestionably taking on a significant amount of risk where a lot of things can go wrong. I'll take Dr. Paley over pretty much anyone to do this for a couple of reasons: one, reading through every diary on this board, and having met several of his patients, Dr. Paley's patients consistently have the lowest amount of complications. Second, his experience, including the mistakes he made. It's partially because of those mistakes, as sad as that is, that he is the best in his field at what he does.
Quote from: jbc on December 28, 2016, 08:23:03 AMAre you kidding, this is what you have? Some anonymous ratings and a half-baked blog post?
I'm certain of several things. One, that over the course of his near 40 year career, Dr. Paley has made some mistakes, maybe some resulting in patient disability. When you've done that many procedures, statistics indicate that you're going to make mistakes. It's inevitable.
Second, that this would be true for any Dr. in any specialty over the same period of time with the same amount of procedures. Again, statistics and law of averages.
Third, that Dr. Paley has probably contributed more to CLL than any other Dr. on the planet. He trained a good portion of the other surgeons on this board. He's pictured with Dr. Guichet as having helped develop the Albizzia nail. He helped develop the Precise, the Precise 2, and is the lead researcher for the full weight bearing Precise.
Fourth, he's responsible for 1/6th of all the Precise CLL procedures worldwide.
Fifth, he's renowned not just for CLL, but for limb lengthening and limb reconstruction. I visited his facility. It was full of malformed kids, mostly. One family shared that they fought immigration laws in their home country for nearly a year to have a chance for their little boy to have surgery with Dr. Paley, and their little boy is now on the road to full recovery.
Sixth, that you can probably not find someone as qualified anywhere else to have this procedure. He has practically an entire hospital dedicated to doing this type of work.
No Dr. worth their salt is free from mistakes. My father was a Dr. for over 40 years, and he lost patients. He was also known as one of Europe's best Dr's. in his specialty.
CLL is an invasive, complicated procedure, and those that have done it or considering it are unquestionably taking on a significant amount of risk where a lot of things can go wrong. I'll take Dr. Paley over pretty much anyone to do this for a couple of reasons: one, reading through every diary on this board, and having met several of his patients, Dr. Paley's patients consistently have the lowest amount of complications. Second, his experience, including the mistakes he made. It's partially because of those mistakes, as sad as that is, that he is the best in his field at what he does.
someone has also reported on here that a patient of Dr. Paley died during LL last year as well.
He puts money>patient health as confirmed by the links provided.
All I have to say is Dr. Paley cares a lot about money. That was why he was dismissed from Baltimore. He was greedy for making more even when he is considered the top orthapedic surgeon in the world for LL and deformities by people on here.
He tried to cheat the system because his gf was the representative of the company who supplied frames to him and he made a lot of money of getting partial shares.
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