Is LL an irrational decision?

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Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on January 02, 2017, 03:41:29 PMYes comparing whole segment to unpopular surgery is pretty rational. kek.
But old forum never had people who went to stupid indian/russian doctors and ended up with serious complications.

And no, i didn't overlook it. I just pointed out how "serious" LL is.

There was no argument made against the seriousness of the surgery, I simply tried to put things in context.
You're right though, the old forum (and increasingly this one) is full of people who would rather go to the 3rd world than wait a few years to save up.

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Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on January 02, 2017, 03:41:29 PMI would prefer to have tempered mind than thinking every night how to finally finish myself.

In the best case? Maybe.
Problems start when you end up crippled or not satisfied from the results(i'm looking at every one of you that claimed lifts aren't making any difference).

I once tried to kill myself but I was too stupid to do it properly which is one reason why I was given antidepressants.
Now I'm glad that I failed and I won't try it again, because I have found out about LL.
I want to know so badly what living feels like when I'm tall enough and accepted.
But I will never find out when I'm dead and I will never find out if I took stronger drugs instead or ones that alter my mind. And neither will you!
LL is the solution if you're too old for HGH and not some drug-induced suppressors and illusions. You will always get reminded of your problems and one day you will even be too old for LL.
If you really think about killing yourself then you will either end up dead or you will hopefully realize that every solution is better than that, no matter how risky it is, because you wanted to die anyway.
And the same goes for "maybe" ending up crippled after LL: you wanted to die anyway and you can still commit suicide.

I went trough all of this thinking before and there is only one way out, no matter how you turn or twist it.

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Quote from: James24 on January 02, 2017, 04:32:36 PM2 inches of lifts are temporary, 2 inches of LL is permanent
because 2 inches of LL will make "you" taller, and then when you do wear lifts, you'll be like others rather than be short, wear lifts, and have others wear lifts, making it no difference.

Yes and then you will want even more height. If you can't appreciate even 2 inches i highly doubt you will appreciate 4".
And don't even start on the proportions since lifts are giving you height in a leg segment.


Quote from: Chris on January 02, 2017, 05:10:58 PMI once tried to kill myself but I was too stupid to do it properly which is one reason why I was given antidepressants.
Now I'm glad that I failed and I won't try it again, because I have found out about LL.
I want to know so badly what living feels like when I'm tall enough and accepted.
But I will never find out when I'm dead and I will never find out if I took stronger drugs instead or ones that alter my mind. And neither will you!
LL is the solution if you're too old for HGH and not some drug-induced suppressors and illusions. You will always get reminded of your problems and one day you will even be too old for LL.
If you really think about killing yourself then you will either end up dead or you will hopefully realize that every solution is better than that, no matter how risky it is, because you wanted to die anyway.
And the same goes for "maybe" ending up crippled after LL: you wanted to die anyway and you can still commit suicide.

I went trough all of this thinking before and there is only one way out, no matter how you turn or twist it.

Good point, but it doesn't prove that LL is "pretty damn good solution", especially when you ended up on a wheelchair and shot yourself.

Quote from: Chris on January 02, 2017, 05:10:58 PMI want to know so badly what living feels like when I'm tall enough and accepted.

Who doesn't accept you?

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Agreed one of the worst feelings is wearing lifts and still appearing significantly shorter than other people you hoped to whom you would have matched. I mean what about when you take those lifts off? The backfire effect is enormous. And people who don't feel satisfied from 2 inch lifts pre LL will probably still wear lifts post LL assuming they lengthen around 5 cm.

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Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on January 02, 2017, 05:43:13 PMYes and then you will want even more height. If you can't appreciate even 2 inches i highly doubt you will appreciate 4".
And don't even start on the proportions since lifts are giving you height in a leg segment.


Good point, but it doesn't prove that LL is "pretty damn good solution", especially when you ended up on a wheelchair and shot yourself.

Who doesn't accept you?

I don't want more height.. I just want to make up for what my genes initially went for.
Sure, added height is a bonus but i'm not greedy.

I'm saying, When you step outside, almost everyone is wearing lifts. So that raises up the "average height" bar. Example: average is 174, it raises up to 182. Then with lifts, you just got 174.. so you're still short.
 
but when you go to a pool or the beach, or a party where required to take off your shoes..
Then with LL, you are tall enough to feel satisfied with yourself.

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To conclude.

 it is rational if you dont rush and choose a good surgeon.. Just like every other cosmetic surgery...
. What isnt rational is the glorification of height (below 6' you suck or the taller young generation bull ) and also all those 2 cent worth moralists like mister Thedude who try to convince everyone to love and accept themselves and other blablabla

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Quote from: James24 on January 02, 2017, 05:52:32 PMI don't want more height.. I just want to make up for what my genes initially went for.
Sure, added height is a bonus but i'm not greedy.

I'm saying, When you step outside, almost everyone is wearing lifts. So that raises up the "average height" bar. Example: average is 174, it raises up to 182. Then with lifts, you just got 174.. so you're still short.
 
but when you go to a pool or the beach, or a party where required to take off your shoes..
Then with LL, you are tall enough to feel satisfied with yourself.

No, not everyone is wearing lifts. In winter, many people might wear boots that give some height, but most are not wearing lifts.

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on January 02, 2017, 06:40:26 PMTo conclude.

 it is rational if you dont rush and choose a good surgeon.. Just like every other cosmetic surgery...
. What isnt rational is the glorification of height (below 6' you suck or the taller young generation bullcrap) and also all those 2 cent worth moralists like mister Thedude who try to convince everyone to love and accept themselves and other blablabla

Thank you

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on January 02, 2017, 06:40:26 PMTo conclude.

 it is rational if you dont rush and choose a good surgeon.. Just like every other cosmetic surgery...
. What isnt rational is the glorification of height (below 6' you suck or the taller young generation bullcrap) and also all those 2 cent worth moralists like mister Thedude who try to convince everyone to love and accept themselves and other blablabla

lol when have I said accept yourself? fk that. Get richer, get fitter, become a better person. But If you think that LL is a cost effective improvement - if you think that spending tens of thousands, crippling yourself for 18 months+, and being permanently weaker all for a few inches in height is worthwhile your insecurity has made your mind become sick and irrational.

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Quote from: Thatdude950 on January 03, 2017, 03:20:37 PMlol when have I said accept yourself? fk that. Get richer, get fitter, become a better person. But If you think that LL is a cost effective improvement - if you think that spending tens of thousands, crippling yourself for 18 months+, and being permanently weaker all for a few inches in height is worthwhile your insecurity has made your mind become sick and irrational.

Why are you even on this forum?