And there are 40kg people thinking they are still too fat, now you get the idea?
And no, LL is not the only real solution when you are 180cm, probably it's not even height dysphoria but self-esteem issues. Both of them can be cured with antidepressants.
The little difference is this: the risks for this surgery for someone who is 6 1" are the same than someone who is 4 11". If an anorexic person is satisfied he/she can die. But the general idea you say, in fact, is correct. wheter the thing you say about antidepressants is correct, I will consider them.
Quote from: onemorefoot on December 27, 2016, 01:48:03 AMThe little difference is this: the risks for this surgery for someone who is 6 1" are the same than someone who is 4 11". If an anorexic person is satisfied he/she can die. But the general idea you say, in fact, is correct. wheter the thing you say about antidepressants is correct, I will consider them.
Depends on the risks. See below:
"The risks of the procedure are no greater if you are taller. The risk, theoretically, should be less since the percent increase in length of a longer bone is less." - Dr. Dror Paley
http://www.paleyinstitute.org/centers-of-excellence/stature-lengthening-center/what-is-stature-lengthening
To address the original question - is CLL irrational? First, a small tangent: CLL is slowly but certainly becoming a more widely-accepted practice, and society's views on altering the human body are changing. Please keep in mind that once upon a time cosmetic braces were frowned upon. And not too long ago, so were breast implants. Both are now widely accepted by our society.
Taking the above into account, the difference between rational and irrational is not whether to do the procedure, but your approach to CLL. A rational approach would be to consult with several surgeons, do plenty of due diligence, weigh your options and tradeoffs (what are you giving up for this, vs. what you think you will gain), take your pre-op training and conditioning seriously, do not lengthen to absurd amounts, engage a competent orthopedic surgeon with a proven track record of success in CLL, and keep safety as your number one priority, not getting taller. The latter should be an outcome of the procedure, not a priority. The priority is that you leave the hospital as healthy and safe as you arrived, only taller.
Most important, sit down with your family doctor who knows your medical history. If they show any bias, ask them to please set it aside and give you a medically relevant opinion based on science and your particular medical history on whether CLL would be right for you. I've done all of the above and my Dr's input, medical knowledge and help in researching different methods and surgeons greatly affected my decision, including ultimately my choice of surgeon.
An irrational approach would be pretty much the opposite of this, in which case you are not ready for CLL.
My .02 and FWIW.
Its irrational if you think that it will have any benefit besides getting women. Its also irrational if you think that you must be 180+ in order to get a woman...
Talking as a 5'7 guy.
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on December 27, 2016, 10:21:22 AMIts irrational if you think that it will have any benefit besides getting women. Its also irrational if you think that you must be 180+ in order to get a woman...
Talking as a 5'7 guy.
The goal isn't getting women though.. well atleast in my case.
Quote from: James24 on December 27, 2016, 10:43:18 AMThe goal isn't getting women though.. well atleast in my case.
So try to find out why you want this.. You are Persian no? Iranians arent tall....
it is an irrational decision if you don't research the surgeon you are going to get LL done with enough.
I researched about Dr. Paley a lot and was thinking of saving enough money to get surgery with him in 4-5 years. But I have found a lot of stuff on him that is not on this forum. Do your own research man when looking for a doctor.
I have narrowed my doctor research to:
Dr. Guichet if I want internal femurs done
or
Dr. Solomin + Dr. Kulesh for external tibias (but i have heard its very hard to get a visa if you are from united states)
Dr. Catagni (very well respected surgeon in Italy)
Dr. Mangal Parihar from India is the only doctor I would suggest for internal femurs if you cannot afford Dr. Guichet.
But beware of India. There is no such thing as lawsuit. The whole court system is corrupt. India is corrupt. You can literally be left disabled due to negligence of the doctor and the doctor will get away with it and keep his license.
How do I know this? I am Indian. There is a lot of corrupt stuff going on there. I would avoid at all costs but if you HAVE to go there, I would suggest Dr. Parihar.
Quote from: onemorefoot on December 27, 2016, 01:48:03 AMThe little difference is this: the risks for this surgery for someone who is 6 1" are the same than someone who is 4 11". If an anorexic person is satisfied he/she can die. But the general idea you say, in fact, is correct. wheter the thing you say about antidepressants is correct, I will consider them.
The surgery, because of its magnitude and consequences, should only be done by very, very desperate people. People who suffer greatly because of their height. It's not a nose job, it can potentially destroy your physical health. To be desperate for being 1,85 is objectively irrational.
Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on December 27, 2016, 11:37:31 AMThe surgery, because of its magnitude and consequences, should only be done by very, very desperate people. People who suffer greatly because of their height. It's not a nose job, it can potentially destroy your physical health. To be desperate for being 1,85 is objectively irrational.
Seriously risk of ending up on a wheelchair for few cm's when you are already 5'11? Hell nah.
Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on December 27, 2016, 03:23:33 PMSeriously risk of ending up on a wheelchair for few cm's when you are already 5'11? Hell nah.
That's why I said it's irrational. Although I think the risk of being in a wheelchair is really small, because you're not disconnecting the nerves on your spine. At worst you will suffer from pain issues and reduced mobility, while still being able to walk.
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