Quote from: TIBIKE200 on March 16, 2017, 10:32:30 PMBeing above average is better than being average. In other news the grass appears to be green
Not if ur color blind
I agree with body builder I noticed a huge increase in positive response when I started using lifts. Its like a fat person that gets skinnier will feel that people treat them better know. And like he said if you are on a level field with someone then height will give you a advantage. Thats why I feel the 5 8 and up guys get more from the surgery since the rest of you guys would be considered still to be short or barely avarage
Quote from: YungGud on March 16, 2017, 08:54:05 PMHow many guys over 6 ft 2 all around the world do you think?
About 1%. max.
But why some of you keep mentioning 6.2 height again and again?
6ft are enough for every woman and 5.11 for like 90% of them, so there is no need for someone to be 6.2ft for any fking reason to be attractive.
@eyeswideshut: very well said. Height makes everything easier. No other aspect in a man's appearance plays a so significant role in terms of looks.
@Tibike: yes things about height are very simple. If you are tall you have a great benefit, if you are average (5.10,5 to 5.7) a small to bigger drawback (the more the distance from 5.10 the bigger the drawback) and if you are short things are very very hard.
But if they are so simple I can't see why we don't agree all with that and we keep arguing.
I don't think people argue about whole "being taller makes it easier" thing here, they argue about statements like this:
Quote from: Body Builder on March 13, 2017, 06:55:30 PMHeight is the most important aspect in a mans appearance that women value the most.
Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on March 17, 2017, 12:29:02 AMI don't think people argue about whole "being taller makes it easier" thing here, they argue about statements like this:
Most people who are here definitely agree with that and that's way they plan to break their legs to achieve a bigger height.
After all if someone doesn't believe that height is so important, he must be crazy to want to do LL which is by far the most extreme cosmetic surgery in the world.
There is a difference between something being "important", "so important", and "the most important".
Differentiate between those three concepts is important. Not the most important thing in the world, but important 
Quote from: Eyeswideshut on March 16, 2017, 08:48:57 PMYou can believe it or not, just go out and experiment. Buy lifts, see how things change as you get "taller".
Do another experiment. Buy a mask, or some make up to make you look like horrible, and try to approach a girl. See how things change when you are ugly.
Pic related: "I'm 6'8, so I'm a p*ssy magnet according to some forum members. You mad, manlet?"
Quote from: Body Builder on March 16, 2017, 01:47:57 PMWe are not fighters but most of the times, the best way to win a fight is to look imposing so noone wants to fight with you.
And height with some good muscles especially in arms and back are enough for the majority of men to not want to fight you.
Although I am not considered tall, I have a relatively good height that with my muscles make me look enough bulk to not be picked for a fight.
I am not as fast or stable as before LL (and I think that has to do more with atl than LL itself) but I look way more imposing than before and if I become 5.11 I'll be much more imposing than now so I doubt that someone would want to fight me, for at least a not very important reason, so I really believe that even if you aren't stronger after LL, you look stronger and that will help you avoid a lot of fights.
After all, we are not in the jungle so I don't think that someone should care if he is not a so capable fighter after LL. After all, most people are not capable in fighting regardless if they did LL or not.
So you have done LL? Where? And how was it? How much time did it take and how much did you pay? Did you have some problems?
I will do this only if I won't have any problems after.
Also I forgot to mention this in my OP:
My dad is (was when he was young) 180 cm and my mom is short only 155 cm. But I think I could be taller than what I am. In my teenage years I did everything I could (not intentionally) to stop my height increase... I was almost anorexic (I ate very little and was super skinny) exactly in the years of height growth then I did not sleep in the night which is when people grow. I used to sleep some hours in the afternoon. I was super stressed by schools and also I was bullied. So I think that my height could have been probably more. I think I could have reached my dad most likely.
This seems proved by my body ratio because I have a big head big hands big and long chest but SHORT LEGS. If I had longer legs i would look totally fine because I think that longer legs would fit the reSt of my body better than those I have.
Also if you want to suggest a GOOD doctor here in Europe (or Italy) which does LL in cases like mine or give me more informations of risks and troubles I will be thankful.
Yes drtruman I did tibia LL and I went from 1.68 to 1.75,5 (morning height) and I have a problem of some weakness durimg walking due to at. lengthening I did which as I mentioned in other threads is a really bad decision that I didn't know before I did it.
But I plan to fix it with another surgery next month and I believe I will be totally fine after that.
But generally speaking I am ok.
But if you want more information you should read carefully the diaries here.
LL is a risk and noone can reassure you that you'll be completely fine after that.
But imo, if you go to a good doctor and lengthen wisely, it definitely worth the risk for people who are at least a little less than average height.
For anything else (like relatively tall guys to become very tall) it definitely doesn't worth of course.
Quote from: Body Builder on March 17, 2017, 11:34:28 AMYes drtruman I did tibia LL and I went from 1.68 to 1.75,5 (morning height) and I have a problem of some weakness durimg walking due to at. lengthening I did which as I mentioned in other threads is a really bad decision that I didn't know before I did it.
But I plan to fix it with another surgery next month and I believe I will be totally fine after that.
But generally speaking I am ok.
But if you want more information you should read carefully the diaries here.
LL is a risk and noone can reassure you that you'll be completely fine after that.
But imo, if you go to a good doctor and lengthen wisely, it definitely worth the risk for people who are at least a little less than average height.
For anything else (like relatively tall guys to become very tall) it definitely doesn't worth of course.
What was a bad decision? And on your personal opinion would it be worth the trouble for me (average tall in theory but always dreamt of being taller and always felt the small guy)?
Also I would like to know the names of best reputable medics in Europe or in general (but not the most expensive)
Quote from: drtruman on March 17, 2017, 12:08:01 PMWhat was a bad decision? And on your personal opinion would it be worth the trouble for me (average tall in theory but always dreamt of being taller and always felt the small guy)?
Also I would like to know the names of best reputable medics in Europe or in general (but not the most expensive)
The bad decision was achilles tendon lengthening surgery. If you read carefully the forum you will fing answers to everything you ask.
And yes, LL worths imo for anyone who doesn't like his height and is at max completely average height. So in your case I think that it worths but you should find a good doctor and lengthen no more than 5-6cm. You don't need more after all and it will be much easier and with normally less risks.
But you are the one who knows if you are really ready and determined enough to do it.
Personally, I am and I'll do one LL more to reach the relatively tall area where you never face any problem with your height again in any case. It truly worths for me. For other people my current height (about 5.9) would be enough to live happily.
So the choice to stay average or do the next step is completely up to us.
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