177 cm italian male

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Quote from: TheLichKing on February 14, 2017, 07:48:17 AMWithout a doubt personality matters a lot. A 5'9 guy who has great sense of humor and confidence will be miles ahead than a boring, lethargic 6'3 dude who has personality issues. You explained it very well in your post. But do you think your money has attracted women's attention for you? Lastly, do you think the 3 inches has made women more attracted to you keeping everything else constant?

I'm sure there are people here who would say their personality is co-dependent on their height i.e., being taller would cure their depression and they would no longer be dead from the inside -> become charismatic, confident and more outgoing = a new person (Basically they would be who they really want to be without having to face the barrier of being short and its psychological effects on them). Can this simply be their false perception and delusion or can it genuinely be the case? After all, everyone is different and this issue is very, very perspective. It may be true that after the surgery they do become their true self and that the truth could be simply that height really did affect their personality and didn't allow them to be who they really wanted to be because of the psychological effects.

On the other hand, there are people here who are artificially blaming their height as a mere excuse for their inability. I think those are the kind of people for whom this surgery would be almost, if not completely, useless.

Your inner psychology can be very strange. Once you have ever instilled a certain mindset over and over in your head it can be difficult to let go. There are some few who genuinely could transform from this procedure but I would say the majority would not be able to because they will move on to the next thing.

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I forgot about this post. Thanks for several answers.  I think I'm a totally sane person. I'm not obsessive and not depressed.  Only thing I would change is that I'm a little bit introverted. Anyway I have gone to many shrinks in my life and they never helped me seriously. I did meditation and all that stuff. Worked out et cetera.
Finally I understood that if I wanted a REAL change in my life I had to take bravery and do brave choices. I could go on my life and accept everything on its path or take the best from it. Plastic surgery was on that direction. I am happy to have done it.  I don't care what people say, the usual things, because we all know that some people do a  ty life with what nature has given them and some others are born with perfect genes. Now maybe you can accept what "nature"has given you, lead your limited life, with all the limitations which nature gave you, but I want to live my life FULLY. I am aware I have just one life and I want the best.
It's not like I cannot live being a 177 cm... I'm quite OK with it...but why shouldnt I go for my dreams? Do I have a second life as a tall guy after? I have just this and I want to fulfill ALL my dreams. Which of course are not only related to height. But being tall is part of the thing.  I do not understand why you find me weird or with mental problems to talk about length lengthening in a forum dedicated to it.  Either we are all crazy or none is. 
Maybe I won't do it quickly because firstly I need to get the money.  But one day, if I find the right medic and I am assured that all the thing is simple and without problems, I will.

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Well said and I can understand your motivation.

You want the best you can get and you'll try until you reach it.
And yes, 1.77 is a good height but it is the limit for me to think about LL so it is not completely nonsense to want to do LL at that height.
From being average to tall (as you can easily could become 6ft) is a big difference and if you want the best in everything and you have the will to try it, then it is your right to do it.

I wouldn't have said the same if you were more than 5.11 though.
But now, yes, it will make a difference for you and if you have improved everything else in your appearance, being tall will be the zenith of your looks.

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Being a 5'10 28 years old who has never had a girlfriend just by itself shows that something is wrong. It is very out of the ordinary to not have had atleast 1 GF by your age and given your completely normal height.

You are correct that you only live once and should improve every aspect of your life, but it seems you are "improving" the things that didn't really need any improvement.

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He said he didn't ever have a gf?
If yes then of course is hasn't to do with his normal height.

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on March 09, 2017, 11:29:33 AMBeing a 5'10 28 years old who has never had a girlfriend just by itself shows that something is wrong. It is very out of the ordinary to not have had atleast 1 GF by your age and given your completely normal height.

You are correct that you only live once and should improve every aspect of your life, but it seems you are "improving" the things that didn't really need any improvement.

+1. It could be esteem and confidence issues. Should focus on what factors are holding those back. 5'10 is a perfectly normal average height by US standards and taller than 90% of countries' average height around the world. I'm predicting you lack social skills and have esteem / confidence issues because those are pretty much very common reasons why men have trouble getting women.

Now if this were a 5'7 and under dude, it would have been understandable that he has esteem / confidence issues because of his height, but at 5'10, height shouldn't be an issue at all, getting taller at this height is only luxury. But nevertheless, if getting CLL helps increase your confidence and esteem by 2 folds or so, who are we to oppose you.... I just think you would have a greater marginal gain (taking cost and benefit analysis into account) by focusing on the other factors that are hindering you, and tbh the profit from CLL would most likely be minuscule in comparison.

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Quote from: Body Builder on March 09, 2017, 01:12:10 PMHe said he didn't ever have a gf?
If yes then of course is hasn't to do with his normal height.

 Yes. First post

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Quote from: TheLichKing on March 10, 2017, 05:04:54 AM+1. It could be esteem and confidence issues. Should focus on what factors are holding those back. 5'10 is a perfectly normal average height by US standards and taller than 90% of countries' average height around the world. I'm predicting you lack social skills and have esteem / confidence issues because those are pretty much very common reasons why men have trouble getting women.

Now if this were a 5'7 and under dude, it would have been understandable that he has esteem / confidence issues because of his height, but at 5'10, height shouldn't be an issue at all, getting taller at this height is only luxury. But nevertheless, if getting CLL helps increase your confidence and esteem by 2 folds or so, who are we to oppose you.... I just think you would have a greater marginal gain (taking cost and benefit analysis into account) by focusing on the other factors that are hindering you, and tbh the profit from CLL would most likely be minuscule in comparison.

I am ITALIAN. Here nowadays height in new generations is quite tall and many times I have been addressed openly as "shorty" "average short" mainly by girls. I know we are known tof be shorty but on my opinion this is not true anymore. Maybe in the past. When I am among people of my age or less I feel definitely average short. Sometimes girls could even laugh or act amazed when I told them (in Facebook chat) I was "only" 177 cm (177.5 or 178 cm in the morning). Sometimes I told them I was 179 cm and I was still short on their opinion. In the same time I have noticed many conversations of average/pretty girls who said things like "that guy is pretty and intelligent BUT he is too short" (guys theorically of average height).
I have come at the conclusion that unfortunately height matters. People in general treat you differently when you are tall and girls above all. This definitely increases your self esteem. One period I used to try small lifters in my shoes (2.5 cm) and I perceived I was looked more from girls. Sometimes I even noticed some smiles. Maybe it was a coincidence but this is one of the several reasons which brought me to consider this option. I don't know if I will ever. Mainly I am afraid of problems. If I was sure of the result I would do it no doubt because come on, at the cost of a car you become taller with all benefits associated... it seems worth it.
Just imagine the feeling of watching everyone from above. This makes you feel big, sttong, confident. I have never seen a tall guy insecure or they are quite rare. While I always noticed that the small guys had some social problems more or less hidden.
I would like more information from you about the problems and rate of them in percentage. Thanks.

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I don't know what your problem ,but first  of all that's not associated with height,cause anything over 5ft9 is dead on average . Also  you aren't "legit" 5ft10 guy unless you hold 178 mark before go to bad.And I also think  being tall is better than being average  (in my opinion)

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I have never seen(except deadbrained girls from tumblr/twitter) a women that called a 5'10 guy short.

If you think 2cm shoelifts suddenly makes you a vagina destroyer then well... i have nothing to say.