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Posted on Apr 5, 2017, 4:45 pm
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Quote from: Body Builder on April 05, 2017, 04:42:18 PMIf your psysical appearance doesn't attract the woman you want then everything else won't help.
If your appearance is acceptable for her then yes, character matters.

But if you are ugly or short etc then character can't help you at least in 99% of cases.
Women are as superficial as men (maybe a little more) in terms of dating.
I wouldn't date an obese or ugly woman even if she were the most intelligent or kind person in the world because attraction has to do mostly with looks.
Thats why these "tricks" are not for serious people, because they are almost insignificant if your looks are bad.




An hour and a half footage of a 5' 7" guy pulling only 7.5's to 10's

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Posted on Apr 5, 2017, 5:01 pm
#12

I disagree with the notion that "guys below 5'7'' are doomed in dating", but still, pick-up skills are not the solution for all of people's problems here:

1. There are guys here that would kill to be 5'8''.
2. Not everyone has problems with women, and many want to do this to be more equal to their male peers, or because they didn't reach their dad's height (deep-rooted psychological reasons other than loneliness).
3. Not everyone wants to be a pick-up artist. I don't like the club scene a bit and don't care about picking up chicks for casual sex.

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Posted on Apr 5, 2017, 5:21 pm
#13

Being below 5'7 isn't going to doom your dating life.

 Enough with this bull  please

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Posted on Apr 5, 2017, 5:23 pm
#14

Quote from: TIBIKE200 on April 05, 2017, 05:21:00 PMBeing below 5'7 isn't going to doom your dating life.

 Enough with this bullcrap please


Awwww *puts the gun down*

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Posted on Apr 5, 2017, 5:46 pm
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Quote from: MoveUp on April 05, 2017, 02:57:35 PMFor those of you who think you have to be of average / tall height to have success with women and to do well in life, I urge you to look into Tyler Durden (Owen Cook) from the website / youtube channel RSD, short for "Real Social Dynamics." This guy has had a profound impact on my height neurosis in terms of dating and also on my perspectives of life and myself.


This guy should be no one's role model. There is a fine line between being more confident and being an aggressive a*hole and this is the wrong approach in my opinion. I'd suggest you read more about RSD and some of the guys involved in this stuff. Julien Blanc for example, he's an alleged sxxual predator and literally banned from multiple countries. There's better stuff out there if you're looking to improve your confidence and do better with women without becoming a borderline date rapist. 

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Posted on Apr 5, 2017, 5:49 pm
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LL in my opinion is not about date, success etc... Human Beans want to fell normal and 5'3 5'4 5'5 5'6 is statiscally not normal. A 5'8 guy is statistically normal.  In our society being not statiscally normal in something that is phisically visible like height, fat, proportions etc... can become a psychological  issue from the first day people make jokes etc... A 5'8 rarely heard jokes in his life. Yes miserable 2 inches make a difference and that shows only how miserable human bens are.
Being truly statically "diferente"  in turn lowers your self steam and can create problems in people's lifes ( from Just a feeling of unhappiness to something more serious). There is no way to understand it without going through it sorry.

People can improve self steam doing therapy, going to a psicologist, taking anti depression drugs etc... LL is just one of the surgeries that replaces psycological treatments. It's another option That's all.

Science, morality and religion are  the main pillars of our society. Everytime we have a new scientific advance, it gets judged by the morality and religious standpoint. That has been like this for the last 5000 years ago. Imagine what people thought about the first first surgery to cure internal body deseases? What's the difference of spending your whole life doing therapy or have a LL surgery that is becoming more more secure and predictable?

LL is another option that's all. I define "option" when it's something secure, done by reputable doctors, tested, predictable etc...

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Posted on Apr 5, 2017, 10:38 pm
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Quote from: MoveUp on April 05, 2017, 04:45:46 PM

An hour and a half footage of a 5' 7" guy pulling only 7.5's to 10's

And why can't I say that this video (like almost any of this kind) isn't fake?

I don't care about these videos, I go out in clubs, bars etc at least 2-3 times per week and I trust my own eyes.
The men that have the most success in picking girls in the real world are 90% above average height with a good style (not anything extravagant) and some average to built body.
Not one of all these but all these traits!
So if you don't have these things then the situation is much more difficult for you and anyone can fix their style or improve their body but noone can change his height. That's why short men are doomed, because they can't do anything to rix it naturally and women don't want to be with men who are below average, in anything! And being beyond 5.7 is far from average and thats why I truly believe and saw from my experience that if you are below this threshold LL is your only weapon to have a normal life, at least with women.
And if you want things to get relatively easy from normal in dating, then you should have more than average height and as I said, a modern style and a fit body.
If you have all these and you are not retarded dating is much easier.
If you don't have something from these, especially height, things get from relatively hard to almost impossible.

End of discussion for me.

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Posted on Apr 5, 2017, 10:53 pm
#18

have you tried wearing lifts with your new height to see if your theory of "doomed dating" is real? I mean now that you are 5'8, have you put 2 inches lifts to see if being 5'10 or almost 5'11 is having such a huge impact as you are implying?

From my anecdotal evidence, those you have it easier with women and dating in general are the good looking guys who are 5'6 and up.
  Face matters

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Posted on Apr 5, 2017, 11:11 pm
#19

I've actually hung out with him and Todd, Julien etc. they are the real deal.  Sure they get rejected a lot as well but they have made the most out of their situation. This is several, 10+ Years of experience as well.

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Posted on Apr 5, 2017, 11:41 pm
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Quote from: Iamready on April 05, 2017, 11:11:54 PMI've actually hung out with him and Todd, Julien etc. they are the real deal.  Sure they get rejected a lot as well but they have made the most out of their situation. This is several, 10+ Years of experience as well.


That's really cool man. Have you done an infield boot camp? I'm thinking of doing it but not sure if it's worth the $2,500.

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