RSD Tyler - will change your perspective in terms of height and dating

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He may be 5'8 and can pull girls. 5'8 is dateable. but if he were 5'10+ women would view him differently in a positive manner. that's a fact. I'd rather be 5'10+ and not having to re compensate for lack of height than to be 5'5-5'8 and having to re compensate for lack of height through doing unnecessary things like body building,facial cosmetic surgery,fake machoism self-built confidence, etc.

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Quote from: 0184946 on April 08, 2017, 11:51:59 PMHe may be 5'8 and can pull girls. 5'8 is dateable. but if he were 5'10+ women would view him differently in a positive manner. that's a fact. I'd rather be 5'10+ and not having to re compensate for lack of height than to be 5'5-5'8 and having to re compensate for lack of height through doing unnecessary things like body building,facial cosmetic surgery,fake machoism self-built confidence, etc.

Well said.

Although when you are 5.8 the things you mentioned will give you more chances while at 5.5 nothing really matters because the lack of height can't be compensateb by anything.

So I truly agree with the spirit of your post but in reality 5.8 has a great differemce compared to 5.5, although it is still not enough to not be considered a drawback.

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Quote from: Body Builder on April 09, 2017, 02:09:09 AMWell said.

Although when you are 5.8 the things you mentioned will give you more chances while at 5.5 nothing really matters because the lack of height can't be compensateb by anything.

So I truly agree with the spirit of your post but in reality 5.8 has a great differemce compared to 5.5, although it is still not enough to not be considered a drawback.

5'8 definitely beats 5'5 but i was just giving the short male height ranges. And yeah agreed  re compensating at 5'5 won't work unless you don't mind looking young all the time.

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Less than 5 5 you are fu!!!!  For all your life in countries where average is 6 feet. So that cr"" of that self confidence and that kind of things Will save you from hell are lies, if you want to seem like if height doesnt care And you are very below average everybody with an average intelligence Will know you are lying And Will laught inside them, paranoic? Ask <5 5 dudes.

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To be male and below 165cm is hell.
No good looks, no achievements in life nor any amount of self-confidence, coolness and pickup skills will help you with girls.
The only thing you can do is focusing on short girls in your height range. That's it. Nothing else can be done.
But the problem with short girls is that there are only a few of them, especially when you look at younger generations.
If I wanted to date a 60-year-old *lol* there are about 20% at that height (<165cm). But there are less than 10% in the 20-30 years range.
I know, the statistics say otherwise, but I've been looking for and counting short girls like forever.
But that's not all: those girls are typically taken like most other girls too. If one of them happens to be single, this rare girl still has to find you handsome and to like your personality.
You guys know how hard it is to find the right girl. If you're shorter than 165cm, you have up to 90% less chance than that.
And you still have competition from all the taller males.
But there is even more in your way: Even if one of those <10% short girls happens to be single, finds you handsome and likes your personality, chances are pretty high that even she thinks that you are too short for her, even though she is in your height range. It's because short girls feel short too. They don't think of them as physically normal compared to other regularly tall people around them and they know you're not normal as well. Girls always look for the best option and you are clearly not the best option if you are a short man. Have fun convincing an equally short girl otherwise.

Now, I'm not saying it's impossible.
I was 161cm and even I got lucky once in my life with a short girl.
But it is very, very hard (emotionally) and you need a lot of time, efforts and most of all: LUCK.
Nothing else will help you, except for LL.

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Quote from: 0184946 on April 08, 2017, 11:51:59 PMHe may be 5'8 and can pull girls. 5'8 is dateable. but if he were 5'10+ women would view him differently in a positive manner. that's a fact. I'd rather be 5'10+ and not having to re compensate for lack of height than to be 5'5-5'8 and having to re compensate for lack of height through doing unnecessary things like body building,facial cosmetic surgery,fake machoism self-built confidence, etc.

This can also be put the other way around, if a tall guy thinks he has no charisma, no confidence and no pretty face, he could think that he would rather be pretty, confident and charismatic instead of having to compensate for lacking those things with his height. Just saying that traits which make you attractive to women (height, confidence, being handsome, being social) are not better or worse than each other.

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Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on April 09, 2017, 08:23:42 PMThis can also be put the other way around, if a tall guy thinks he has no charisma, no confidence and no pretty face, he could think that he would rather be pretty, confident and charismatic instead of having to compensate for lacking those things with his height. Just saying that traits which make you attractive to women (height, confidence, being handsome, being social) are not better or worse than each other.

Almost no woman would only date handsome men.
The strong majority of men have average or less than average faces but most of them (maybe not the really ugly ones) have much chances in dating.

At the other hand, almost no woman would date a short man (less than 5.7 and especially less than 5.5) only for his lack of height.

So it is not the same. Being not good looking but with a good height and a relativley good style means than you'll have enough chances with women while being short is a so strong drawback that almost nothing could change it and the vast majority of women will reject you only for that, even if you are excellent in anything else.

This is completely ridiculous but it is the harsh truth and all of us know it more or less and thats why we do something so hard like LL.
But even that is more preferable than a life with far less chances for something you cant change physically.

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Quote from: Body Builder on April 09, 2017, 11:48:42 PMAlmost no woman would only date handsome men.

Almost no woman would date a man that is only tall and has no other positive traits. Height, confidence, handsomeness, integrity, ambition, charisma, ckiness, etc. etc. can all be attractive traits and how important they are in priority is different to every woman. You have said multiple times that you believe height is the most important trait for a man, out of all. I'm just telling you that this is not everybody elses opinion.

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Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on April 09, 2017, 11:58:30 PMAlmost no woman would date a man that is only tall and has no other positive traits. Height, confidence, handsomeness, integrity, ambition, charisma, ckiness, etc. etc. can all be attractive traits and how important they are in priority is different to every woman. You have said multiple times that you believe height is the most important trait for a man, out of all. I'm just telling you that this is not everybody elses opinion.

If you are short then nothing else matters for a woman.

Anything other drawback in a man's appearance can be compensated for a few or a lot other positive traits.
But the real lack of height can't be compensated by anything and that's a fact.

So I don't think that height is everything, of course it isn't, but the lack of height makes anything else to not matter.
Thats what I'm saying and I really don't know how anyone, especially on this forum, could disagree.

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A lot of you guys are misguided and misinformed on this topic. Let me make this very clear to you. Height is the most important factor in dating period. You cannot compensate for being short except with massive amounts of money and status. Just deal with it.

Under 5'8 and you are in for some real problems, believe me.

A tall and ugly guy beats out a short and handsome guy 9 times out of 10.